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Re: John Carter movie

Post by Yaztromo » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:59 am

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John Connor of Mars. :P There's a crossover I would pay to see.
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Post by Kythkyn » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:59 pm

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Why pay a license fee if you’re just going to make up a whole new character? They should have made “Dirk Baddassery, Reluctant Hero and Self-Pitying Jerk of Mars,” saved themselves the fee, and left the original property intact for someone who really wanted to make a John Carter movie.
Apt.

My biggest disappointments with the movie were the unnecessary changes to Carter, and the intertwining of multiple novels, when they could have largely just followed the blueprint in a Princess of Mars and had a killer movie. I wanted to see the atmosphere plant on the big screen
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Re: John Carter movie

Post by Yaztromo » Wed May 01, 2019 3:01 pm

Kythkyn wrote:
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they could have largely just followed the blueprint in a Princess of Mars and had a killer movie.
IF they conveyed the message with a decent promotion.... or at least a decent title!
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Post by Kythkyn » Sat May 04, 2019 7:24 pm

BTW, the movie is currently on Netflix (at least in the US)
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Re: John Carter movie

Post by Coronoides » Mon May 06, 2019 1:07 pm

Kythkyn wrote:
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BTW, the movie is currently on Netflix (at least in the US)
Not in Australia :(
But I own the DVD and have it on iTunes :)
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Post by Yaztromo » Mon May 27, 2019 5:14 am

According to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_(film)
Although the film grossed nearly $300 million worldwide, it lost a considerable amount of money due to its cost. At the time of its release Disney claimed the film's production budget was $250 million, although tax returns released in 2014 revealed its exact budget was $263.7 million after taking tax credits into account. Before the film opened analysts predicted the film would be a huge financial failure due to its exorbitant combined production and marketing costs of $350 million
So, after all the earnings were pretty good, despite the mentioned marketing issues, but the downside were the high production and marketing (!!!) costs combined, that caused the loss.

Consider that (according to this website http://mentalfloss.com/article/64952/20 ... s-all-time) the 20th highest grossing movie of all times (corrected for inflation) is at around $800 million: not so far away.
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Re: John Carter movie

Post by paleologos » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:36 am

There's a great book "John Carter and the Gods of Hollywood" that does a deep dive into what went wrong.

Big piece of the puzzle is that Disney realized they were going to be getting Star Wars as filming was wrapping up - so they essentially lost all interest.

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Re: John Carter movie

Post by Angelika Tatsu » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:39 am

paleologos wrote:
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There's a great book "John Carter and the Gods of Hollywood" that does a deep dive into what went wrong.

Big piece of the puzzle is that Disney realized they were going to be getting Star Wars as filming was wrapping up - so they essentially lost all interest.
What a load of crock. I quite enjoyed most of the movie, if it would have gotten a little more love it would have been better. I wish it had been successful so that the property could be explored more on the big and small screen.
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Re: John Carter movie

Post by Yaztromo » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:06 am

In some multibillion companies there is somebody loking even too carefully after each cents, in some other they lose interest on the hundreds of millions... what a strange world...
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Re: John Carter movie

Post by paleologos » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:24 am

I know!

The good news is that ERB, Inc. got the rights back from Disney. Rumor is they're looking for a Netflix style, Game of Thrones treatment of the property.

I could easily see that being a smash success!

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Re: John Carter movie

Post by Cromstar » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:28 am

paleologos wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:24 am
I know!

The good news is that ERB, Inc. got the rights back from Disney. Rumor is they're looking for a Netflix style, Game of Thrones treatment of the property.

I could easily see that being a smash success!
That would definitely be a much stronger format for the stories, especially seeing how they ended practically every chapter on a cliffhanger anyway.

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Post by Havard » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:51 am

Cromstar wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:28 am
paleologos wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:24 am
I know!

The good news is that ERB, Inc. got the rights back from Disney. Rumor is they're looking for a Netflix style, Game of Thrones treatment of the property.

I could easily see that being a smash success!
That would definitely be a much stronger format for the stories, especially seeing how they ended practically every chapter on a cliffhanger anyway.
Yeah, that would be great! If they can find a way to make green martians look good with a combination of CGI and practical effects instead of pure CGI (so you could have shots from certain angles without CGI at all), then that might help reduce the costs. CGI is getting cheaper anyway so that might not be an issue. I could see Netflix, Amazon and other streaming services being interested in a property like this.

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Post by finarvyn » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:16 am

My wife bought us a new TV. Bigger than the old one. First movie I watched … John Carter! Not as nifty as at the theater but still a load of fun.
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Re: John Carter movie

Post by apotheot » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:33 am

Rented it and watched it at home after it had left theaters. Didn't recall having strong feelings about it one way or the other, and havent seen it since. But a friend has been telling me it was actually really good, and recommends me re-watching it. So just received a dvd copy from someone on ebay. Will let you know when I get around to watching again.
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