As you can see, I was mostly thinking of the Celestial Imperium, but the Chainmail map was in the thread as an image an that came up on the page there.Big Mac on Flanaess Geographical Society's Facebook group wrote:There is a thread about oriental settings on The Piazza's Oriental Adventures forum.
The map of Oerth showing the Celestial Imperium (from Dragon Annual number 1) was mentioned. (I can't get that link to work now.) There is also talk of the (3e) Chainmail setting, which one of the posters said was at the far left of the same continent that the Flanaess is on.
Is this the sort of thing you would be interested in looking at after your currrent project is completed, Anna?
Here is the Chainmail map to save you needing to surrf anywhere:
A guy called Steven Rossi ~ spotted something I missed on the Chainmail map:
Looking at that map, in the light of what Steven said, we have a desert that is larger than the entire Flanaess.Steven Rossi on Flanaess Geographical Society's Facebook group wrote:That is nice. I wonder why the "Southlands" of west Oerik are all desert. They are so far south of the equator, they should be jungles again, and then temperate along the bottom. There is probably some magical cause. Oerth gets alot of such things... Sea of Dust, Bright Desert, Land of Black Ice, Rift Canyon.
However, if there is no magical cause then it should be changed, and Anna is just the cartographer to do it justice!
I know that Robert S. Conley had some good research about wether in his tutorials and mentioned that:
I'm sure that Robert could build a desert logically, if he wanted, but I'm not sure if it is possible to build such a large desert in that sort of location.Big Mac on Flanaess Geographical Society's Facebook group wrote:Weather is a complex thing. Maybe there is nothing to cause rain clouds to rain in the Southlands.
But I have to say that the "Chainmail" area is much bigger than the Flanaess, but seems to have a *lot* less going on there (geographically). It "feels" like it is smaller than the Flanaess, from the level of detail.
Getting back to the uber-desert of the Southlands, Robert S. Conley made some pretty interesting tutorials on world building called: How to Make a Fantasy Sandbox:
http://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2009/ ... ndbox.html
I'm still waiting for him to get through the highly detailed tutorials, but some of his early ones give some really good explanations on weather and how to "tweak" the geography to (realistically) make rain where other places have desert. Maybe some of his logic could make the Southlands a bit more realistic.
(I don't know if Robert's work would allow Anna to make weather maps with her 3D Greyhawk geography.)
And although Steven says The Southlands are far south of the equator, I'm not really sure exactly where this map fits on the map of Oerth (i.e. I'm not sure where Oerth's equator is).
Does anyone have the Chainmail material that deals with The Southlands? Does it explain why The Southlands is so big? Is it "magic", like Steven suggests?