[Rokugan] What is known about Rokuganspace?

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[Rokugan] What is known about Rokuganspace?

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I am curious as to what information is available that fleshes out the solar system that Rokugan resides in.
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Angel Tarragon wrote:
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I am curious as to what information is available that fleshes out the solar system that Rokugan resides in.
I would like to know this too, though. ;)
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The only D&D stuff for Rokugan seems to be in the 3e OA handbook. Is there any information in there at all? IDK if it would not count if it wasn't a TSR/WotC thing, but I know there are more books by (I think) AEG? Anything in there?
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There are quite a few books for Legend of the Five Rings RPG, which is Rokugan. I am interested in learning more about the world, but at this point more about the celestial space in which the world inhabits.

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I can skim through my 2e L5R books, which were pre-d20, and see if there's anything mentioned there
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To the best of my knowledge, there isn't really any info on anything that could be termed "Rokuganspace." There are astrologers who study the stars, and besides the Sun and the Moon (which are deific entities and not strictly celestial bodies as we know them), there were seven other heavenly bodies that were identified. It wasn't known if they were actual planets, stars, or what, but they were named after the seven Fortunes: Benten, Bishamon, Daikoku, Ebisu, Fukurokujin, Hotei, and Jurojin.

I think the most you'll find on it will be in L5R: Winter Court- Kyuden Asako, and that doesn't cover a whole lot.
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There's not much more than that in the rest of the series either. The only work that went into space was "Empire of Emerald Stars," the last chapter of Imperial Histories II. It's a far-off hypothetical future where Rokugan takes to the stars (after discovery of other planets that could support life causes a few years of ideological warfare...). However, this is on a galactic scale; the rest of the solar system isn't defined.

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EndlessKng wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:00 am
There's not much more than that in the rest of the series either. The only work that went into space was "Empire of Emerald Stars," the last chapter of Imperial Histories II. It's a far-off hypothetical future where Rokugan takes to the stars (after discovery of other planets that could support life causes a few years of ideological warfare...). However, this is on a galactic scale; the rest of the solar system isn't defined.
There was also a very long running fan made Living Campaign called Rokugan 2000 which was all about Samurai! In! Space! and while it inspired the Empire of Emerald Stars bit from Imp Histories, it was never official.

Since Rokugan was only an official D&D setting for part of 3.X, and Spelljammer was never a part of 3.X officially, there isn't any official Rokuganspace information. It's god's and dieties also don't fit very well into the normal D&D style divinities, which also makes it hard to fit in without a lot of work. I would honestly just use Kara Tur if you want an Asian flavored group and because its part of the Realms, there are even rules for it somewhere.

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Kythkyn wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:24 am
I can skim through my 2e L5R books, which were pre-d20, and see if there's anything mentioned there
Any luck with this, Kythkyn?

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Angel Tarragon wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:50 pm
Kythkyn wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 4:24 am
I can skim through my 2e L5R books, which were pre-d20, and see if there's anything mentioned there
Any luck with this, Kythkyn?
They don't really talk about that sort of thing at all. I went back and looked and the closest they get is "the celestial heavens" and that's more planescape them spelljammer. Space just isn't a thing in the fantasy that L5R seeks to emulate

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talsine wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:48 am
They don't really talk about that sort of thing at all. I went back and looked and the closest they get is "the celestial heavens" and that's more planescape them spelljammer. Space just isn't a thing in the fantasy that L5R seeks to emulate
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EndlessKng wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:00 am
There's not much more than that in the rest of the series either. The only work that went into space was "Empire of Emerald Stars," the last chapter of Imperial Histories II. It's a far-off hypothetical future where Rokugan takes to the stars (after discovery of other planets that could support life causes a few years of ideological warfare...). However, this is on a galactic scale; the rest of the solar system isn't defined.
Oooh! I missed this reply, and it's the most awesome reply in this topic.

I have not heard of Imperial Histories 2 before. I'll have to consider putting that on my Rokugan shopping list, so I can see what is in Chapter Thirteen: Empire of the Emerald Stars.

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talsine wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:40 pm
EndlessKng wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:00 am
There's not much more than that in the rest of the series either. The only work that went into space was "Empire of Emerald Stars," the last chapter of Imperial Histories II. It's a far-off hypothetical future where Rokugan takes to the stars (after discovery of other planets that could support life causes a few years of ideological warfare...). However, this is on a galactic scale; the rest of the solar system isn't defined.
There was also a very long running fan made Living Campaign called Rokugan 2000 which was all about Samurai! In! Space! and while it inspired the Empire of Emerald Stars bit from Imp Histories, it was never official.
Is any of that Living Campaign stuff still around?

So was the Empire of the Emeral Stars chapter supposed to be a dream of the future? Or did it have a tie-in to something like a CCG?
talsine wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:40 pm
Since Rokugan was only an official D&D setting for part of 3.X, and Spelljammer was never a part of 3.X officially, there isn't any official Rokuganspace information. It's god's and dieties also don't fit very well into the normal D&D style divinities, which also makes it hard to fit in without a lot of work. I would honestly just use Kara Tur if you want an Asian flavored group and because its part of the Realms, there are even rules for it somewhere.
Technically Spelljammer did get support in 3rd Edition (it just didn't get it's own product line). There was Shadow of the Spider Moon (as a new Spelljammer setting), Forgotten Realms reused some parts of Realmspace and a couple of the core 3e books included Spelljammer content. (So the crossover campaign of Kara-Tur spacefarers coming to Rokugan never got enabled.)

But WotC never put Spelljammer into the SRD (or put out a core rulebook). Just like they never put out the "Oriental SRD" that was supposed to be published.

If the Oriental SRD had come out, it would have been a lot easier for other publishers to create sourcebooks that were Oriental Adventures compatible and keep the Rokugan 3rd Edition D&D version supported.
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Big Mac wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:40 am
talsine wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:40 pm
EndlessKng wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:00 am
There's not much more than that in the rest of the series either. The only work that went into space was "Empire of Emerald Stars," the last chapter of Imperial Histories II. It's a far-off hypothetical future where Rokugan takes to the stars (after discovery of other planets that could support life causes a few years of ideological warfare...). However, this is on a galactic scale; the rest of the solar system isn't defined.
There was also a very long running fan made Living Campaign called Rokugan 2000 which was all about Samurai! In! Space! and while it inspired the Empire of Emerald Stars bit from Imp Histories, it was never official.
Is any of that Living Campaign stuff still around?

So was the Empire of the Emeral Stars chapter supposed to be a dream of the future? Or did it have a tie-in to something like a CCG?
The Empire of the Emerald Stars isn't a dream, its just an alt future / setting. As for the Living Campiagn stuff, it was all for the original L5R rules set, not d20, so i don't know how useful it would be, but if its still around, i don't have it, I haven't even looked it up in years and years.
Big Mac wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:40 am
talsine wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:40 pm
Since Rokugan was only an official D&D setting for part of 3.X, and Spelljammer was never a part of 3.X officially, there isn't any official Rokuganspace information. It's god's and dieties also don't fit very well into the normal D&D style divinities, which also makes it hard to fit in without a lot of work. I would honestly just use Kara Tur if you want an Asian flavored group and because its part of the Realms, there are even rules for it somewhere.
Technically Spelljammer did get support in 3rd Edition (it just didn't get it's own product line). There was Shadow of the Spider Moon (as a new Spelljammer setting), Forgotten Realms reused some parts of Realmspace and a couple of the core 3e books included Spelljammer content. (So the crossover campaign of Kara-Tur spacefarers coming to Rokugan never got enabled.)

But WotC never put Spelljammer into the SRD (or put out a core rulebook). Just like they never put out the "Oriental SRD" that was supposed to be published.

If the Oriental SRD had come out, it would have been a lot easier for other publishers to create sourcebooks that were Oriental Adventures compatible and keep the Rokugan 3rd Edition D&D version supported.
I mean, yes that is all true, but it was supported in the same way that a lot of the old 2E settings where, which is to say not very. Again, Rokugan doesn't really handle space very well cause once you start getting into it, it starts to break down the tropes that the setting is based on. Then again, they kind did that on their own towards the end of the line (looking at you Second City garbage nonsense i hate you) so who knows.

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talsine wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:59 pm
The Empire of the Emerald Stars isn't a dream, its just an alt future / setting. As for the Living Campiagn stuff, it was all for the original L5R rules set, not d20, so i don't know how useful it would be, but if its still around, i don't have it, I haven't even looked it up in years and years.
Someone made a compiled PDF of Empire of the Emerald Stars material.

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