A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by agathokles » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:58 am

Marco Fossati wrote:
Marsupialmancer wrote:I think that's also a good method. 2E magicians had severe restrictions in what spells they could pick (nothing from non-divination or illusion schools past 2nd level) so they were notably weaker, but if you don't mind a less-strict adherence to the 2E setting stuff, then I don't see why you couldn't do just that. :)

Diviners are pretty strong, too, so it wouldn't feel like so much of a penalty as it would just a mild restriction. I think I'll add it in as a possible alternate rule in the next version, though it does raise the question as to whether I should keep the restriction on eldritch knights, arcane tricksters, and sorcerers.
maybe you can allow arcane trickster and eldritch knights to unblooded characters
Consider that Magicians in AD&D 2e compensate their lesser magical ability with some roguish abilities, so arcane tricksters would likely fit the bill.

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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by Marsupialmancer » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:16 am

Hello again everyone! I've been hard at work on other things (Ghostwalk 5E is being quarrelsome), but also making updates to this conversion. I've moved my efforts over from Google Drive to Homebrewery directly, which allows me to keep doing the nice fancy formatting.

As a disclaimer, it doesn't look great in the browser view if you are at greater than 100% (standard) zoom, nor on browsers other than Chrome. In those cases, you can click on the Get PDF button on the top right to download it directly with the formatting the site provides; it should look okay then! If you're still experiencing issues with corrupted formatting, let me know and I can export versions as PDF and provide an alternate link. It's hard to tell who and who isn't going to have viewing issues, but I'm happy to accommodate folks!

Here is the link to the current and updated document. I've added more sections near the end for including non-Birthright PCs, made copious rules updates, and introduced arcane magic options in case you don't prefer to play with "restricted" Cerilia. I've also stripped out some OGL-unfriendly language and references. Thank you all for the wonderful feedback you've provided to date.

As a bonus, I also created a supplementary document, Birthright Archetypes, with a few character options I've been tinkering with. I haven't had much chance to balance-test them yet, so if you see anything particularly egregious then please let me know (I'm still mulling over the Mebhaighl Scholar's level 14 ability). I will update this with some other archetypes as I come up with them; I backed off of the idea of doing a Bloodline-related scion, as an old colleague of mine already did something similar and I was having trouble making my version feel different enough.

Hope this is all useful, and I'll check in as I get time. :)
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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by Bud » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:19 pm

This is really excellent, well done - the content and presentation are first rate.
I'm hoping to run a new Birthright campaign this winter (it's been 20 years since our last one!). I was going to run it 2e, since that is what most of my groups games are, but with this document will consider a 5e Birthright game, in the interests of getting some other players involved.
Thanks for helping to keep Cerelia a going concern!

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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by Dread Delgath » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:36 pm

I'm late to this party (as usual), but I just did a search on my phone for Birthright materials for 5e, and your pdf showed up in the search, but, due to my phone's built in limitations, I decided to download the PDF to my laptop instead.

Doing another search led me back here to the Piazza! and your homebrewery links. However, I'm having problems with the downloaded PDF. The formatting is screwy and half the content is not visible on the page. But, I am happy to report that a simple "Select All" and copy/paste allowed me to transfer everything to odt (Libre Office Writer for linux os), so all is well.

Thank you for putting this together. One of my players is interested in Birthright & wondered if anything was created official for 5e. I believe this is as close to "official" that we're going to find atm. :)
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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by Marsupialmancer » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:33 pm

Hello, Dread Delgath! Try this link instead, it's much more up to date: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ngdKM ... RU5mK8WjUx

I'm presently working on some revisions to this as well, so expect a new version at some point TBD.
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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by Zeromaru X » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:16 pm

Thanks for sharing it. I don't play in Cerilia, but I've thought of stealing the rules for making castles and the like. I'll be watching for the next update.

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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by Dread Delgath » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:06 am

Marsupialmancer wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:33 pm
Hello, Dread Delgath! Try this link instead, it's much more up to date: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LD47l ... wuyj6PLJ5W

I'm presently working on some revisions to this as well, so expect a new version at some point TBD.
Thank you! :D
A big THANKS! to Giant Space Hamster & Chimpman for the cookies! (Dark Side be damned!) :D

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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by Marsupialmancer » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:43 am

It's here at last! After this thread was bumped back in June, I got a bee in my bonnet to hit this project again and revise it, clean it up, and make it fresh and clean. So here it is, still at the same link as before (but copied here for posterity).

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ngdKM ... RU5mK8WjUx

The change list is... very large. Let's see.

- Rebalanced all races/ancestries.
- Reworked all blood abilities and derivation passives in a sweeping and complete fashion to make them easier to understand and have fewer flat-out bad choices.
- Revised a number of domain actions.
- Allowed both RP and GB to contribute toward bonus success chance.
- Clarified terminologies across the board.
- Renamed some confusing terms.
- Reworked languages that were erroneously referenced; who knew that my boxed copy was missing that card?
- Cleaned up Garradalaigh patron warlock (and removed erroneous references to the term "pact").
- Fixed up plenty of errors in the Waging War section.
- Added provisos for attacking holdings in your own territory (since that uh, came up... don't ask).
- Added a new section for optional mechanics, which for now includes Tournament game rules; archery, jousting, melee, and racing are included here and kept fairly abstract for quick resolution.
- Added more campaign options and optional rules for how playtest parties played the game.
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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by shesheyan » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:57 am

Great stuff! Thanks for making this. This will prove useful for my current 5e campaign.

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Re: A Birthright 5E conversion attempt!

Post by Dread Delgath » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:06 am

Looks awesome, thanks! I will give it a read soon!
A big THANKS! to Giant Space Hamster & Chimpman for the cookies! (Dark Side be damned!) :D

My D&D 5th edition Dakan Mar Campaign setting Conspectus and Campaign Rules here at The Piazza Forums, a Fool's Errand WIP.

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