He also added another reply:Big Mac wrote:Wait! There is an extra moon in 4e Eberron?Zeromaru X wrote:Eberron didn't have new planes. 4e Eberron have the same moons, and the same orrery cosmology it has in 3e. Astral Sea was just only another name for Syberis, while Elemental Chaos is just another name for Khyber. Shadowfell and Feywild are just alternate names for Dolurrh and Thelanis as well. Some moons are more aligned with Syberis, other with Eberron, and other with Khyber, and there is an extra moon in Syberis (the Nine Hells) but the original orrery of moons still exist in 4e.Big Mac wrote:From what I can tell Nentir Vale has the Shadowfell. I'm not sure if Elsir Vale ever named a Plane of Shadow (3e style). I think the 4e Eberron Campaign Setting has a rebooted cosmology. I'm not sure about Dark Sun.
You can think that the Astral Sea is just the Astral Plane that connected the moons in the 3e cosmology, and that's all. Khyber exist within Eberron, so there is no Elemental Chaos in the planar map.
And the Elsir Vale in 3e was just a generic region without any planes mentioned.
And you also can take into account that the 4e MotP included a version of the Great Wheel (with all the equivalents for 4e monster's origins) as a valid cosmology. They just focused in the World Axis because that was the cosmology of the "core" D&D world of 4e (Nerath world).
Somebody should have told me!
But I'd like to bring the conversation here, rather than derail Havard's Planescape topic with Eberron questions.Zeromaru X wrote:Baator, the Nine Hells, is the 14th moon of Eberron in 4e. Is the nominal home of devils in this setting (and Asmodeus claims he is a god, even if the rest of the eberronites believe he is just an archfiend). Shavarath is still a battlefield for devils, angels and demons, nonetheless.
Why did this moon (which breaks the "Baker's Dozen Law" ) get added to 4th Edition Eberron?
Is there some sort of 3e-to-4e transition plotline that made it necessary to add another moon?
Is it the lost moon, replaced by an alternative moon?
Or is this some sort of "executive meddling" to make Eberron fit into the 4e cosmology?