Havard wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:26 pm
Does the Hollow World have an Underdark? What realms can be found there?
Indubitably. I know there have been some threads/conversations about it in the past, though I don't recall where (might have been on one of the previous versions of the board). I think we had come up with a different term for it than Hollowdeep, though.
Schattenalfen Caves - This is the most obvious realm and probably the largest
Agreed with this.
Hutaakan Valley - Does this valley have its own version of Kartoeba from B10?
Like Giampaolo, I wouldn't give them another Kartoeba. It didn't seem to necessarily have any relevance to why/how the hutaaka ended up in the Hollow World, so I'm not sure it makes sense to put another one there.
That said, I did come up with a Burrower inhabiting the hutaaka valley for the hutaaka gazetteer that some of us worked together with Mischa Gelman on years ago. (Not a subterranean creature.) I could see some subterranean hutaaka/lupin related races living in the region, though.
Krugel Horde (Orcs)
This one I'm torn on. Orcs are certainly traditionally more subterranean folk, but the Krugel horde are really based around ranching and horseriding (and raiding) so I'm not sure they fit the mold of subterranean races. Then again, the acculturation of the Krugel to their current makeup took place in a really, really short time (it almost seems like it must have mostly happened in the Hollow World), so who knows? Maybe some other orcish subraces would be more fitting. I definitely think there is a place for Red Orcs in the Krugel lands (albeit not necessarily subterranean dwellers).
Kingdom of Milenia
As to all of the above (which I've sort of grouped together), these cultures all have- at least in their RW analogues- definite discussions of underworlds in their collective mythologies. While that can be simply contextualized to creation/religious mythology and ascribed to Outer Planar locales (such as Limbo, etc.), I think there is also something intriguing about assuming a more literal explanation: that these myths of underworlds may be linked to the world underneath the Hollow World (or even just to vague memories of life on the other side of the planar crust).
To whit, Incan creation myths of emergence from the underworld to the world they now live in have a very telling comparison to the idea that the Oltecs- who once lived on the outer world- now live inside the world. The Greek underworld was viewed as literally being underneath the Earth's crust- so might there be a sort of "Elysian Fields" inhabited by shadows under Traldar lands? Or even Titanic figures trapped beneath the Hollow World (perhaps those could be how Traldar myth explains the Burrowers?)
To this list I would also add the Azcan- we know there are some underground dwellers in Azcan lands (the Gruquotec followers of Wastoure. By canon, they are altered Brute-men, but the name and location would seem to suggest they should have been Beastmen instead. I don't know if that was a mistake by the author or intentional.)
Merry Pirates - Possibly nothing here?
The Merry Pirates are an interesting and kind of difficult lot at times, but maybe there was once a group of evil/roguish dwarves with rockships
that terrorized the outer world but were defeated and preserved before they completely were eliminated?
See above about the Gruquotecs, but additional to that, I could certainly see that Brute men might have retreated en masse into the underworld as more and more outsiders began to arrive and displace them.
I would assume the Burrowers would be found in these caves. How deep does the Spell of Preservation run?
I think the illustrations in the DM's Guide to the Hollow World (and on the map) depict the range of the SoP. It's been a while since I looked at them. I'm pretty sure it doesn't extend beyond the World Shield, except possibly in some spots where there have been breaks in the World Shield.
Also, don't forget the Graakhalians who are at least partially displaced to the HW after the WotI (per PWA1012, I believe.) They migrated through the land.
Icevale Elves also migrated through the crust; is it possible that some groups of them remained within the caverns before emerging?