Gravesguardian wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:10 am
One of my reason for that remark has to do with the size of Thunder Rift. We all know that mileage on the "canon" map is a blatant lie. At 21 miles West to East and 32 miles North to South, its way too small for all the adventures: since many of then actually do give travel distances. Sword and Shield, for instance, lists Avenal as being "a week of travel" from the PC's hometown (see pg. 6). The Campaign Setting Book says to "assume" walking 20 miles a day or riding 40 miles a day (see pg. 5). In another post me and someone else calculated that the proper size for TR is roughly 216 North to South by 144 miles East to West; which as they pointed out: makes Thunder Rift larger than Karameikos. Unless you place TR in the past of an already existing country, there is no room in the Known World for it to fit.
I think you can make Thunder Rift as small or large as your campaign needs it to be.
There are a few options for a larger Thunder Rift that have been suggested
1) Setting TR in the past (as per your suggestion)
2) TR is a separate plane or micro-dimension
3) Thunder Rift exists outside the Known World, perhaps even on another continent like Skothar.
To me the problem with all of the above is that they make Thunder Rift less accessible to DMs because most DMs will prefer to run their campaigns in the Known World. One important goal for my work on Thunder Rift has been to persuade other fans that Thunder Rift is a relevant mini-setting that Mystara fans should consider using, not as an alternative to Mystara, but as an integral part of Mystara. Having the possibility for characters to transition between Thunder Rift and the Known World is important in that sense. Giving Thunder Rift an achor in the Hollow World via WotES also helps in this regard.
But placing Thunder Rift in the Known World does impose some limitations to the setting itself (like the size issue). I make TR the size of two 24 mile hexes. But each DM needs to decide for himself if those limitations are useful for him or her or if a different setup is more useful.