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Jester class?

Post by shesheyan » Mon May 14, 2018 12:13 pm

I played a Jester during an AD&D1E campaign. I located Dragon Magazine #60 as the source of the article. Did this class get a make over in other editions afterwards ?

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- 2nd edition AD&D came out, they made the jester class a "kit" of Bards (a sub-class of Rogues).
- The 3.5 Dragon Compendium updated the Jester as a prestige class.
- There is also a Court Jester archetype (for the Bard) in Pathfinder 1E.
- It was also a bardic College in a 5e Unearthed Arcana release.
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Post by night_druid » Mon May 14, 2018 12:41 pm

I think Jester made it as a kit in 2e, but that's as far as it got, I think. I kinda doubt it made it to 3e, although it might have been a prestige class in some d20 supplement.
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Post by Harbinger-of-Doom » Mon May 14, 2018 5:58 pm

It was also a bardic College in a 5e Unearthed Arcana release. It didn't make the cut for XGTE.

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Post by GMWestermeyer » Mon May 14, 2018 6:07 pm

I LOVE the jester class. One of my unrealized dreams is to play one. Probably for the best, I am not at all funny. But this is just a brilliant class.

I've also never had a player willing to play one in a game I DM... I hope to add one as an NPC to a game soon.

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Post by night_druid » Mon May 14, 2018 6:24 pm

Jester-headed Spelljammer? Captained by the Joker? Good gawd...:o
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Post by Cthulhudrew » Mon May 14, 2018 7:34 pm

The 3.5 Dragon Compendium updated the Jester as a prestige class. There is also a Court Jester archetype (for the Bard) in Pathfinder.
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Post by bayonetbrant » Mon May 14, 2018 7:36 pm

We covered this last fall (The Jester starts around the 49:45 mark)
https://youtu.be/ymj8XDZGOso
The Jester was put into issue #60 b/c it was the April Fools issue, with the other gimmick content like the Saturday Morning Monsters, and the Flight of the Boodles game.
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Re: Jester class?

Post by shesheyan » Mon May 14, 2018 7:40 pm

Harbinger-of-Doom wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 5:58 pm
It was also a bardic College in a 5e Unearthed Arcana release. It didn't make the cut for XGTE.
WOW! I'll check this out. ;)
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Re: Jester class?

Post by shesheyan » Mon May 14, 2018 7:41 pm

night_druid wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 6:24 pm
Jester-headed Spelljammer? Captained by the Joker? Good gawd...:o
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Post by shesheyan » Mon May 14, 2018 7:50 pm

night_druid wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 12:41 pm
I think Jester made it as a kit in 2e, but that's as far as it got, I think. I kinda doubt it made it to 3e, although it might have been a prestige class in some d20 supplement.
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« Later, when 2nd edition AD&D came out, they made the jester class a "kit" of Bards (a sub-class of Rogues), which makes sense. But the official version is much less interesting than the 1st edition jester. »
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Post by shesheyan » Mon May 14, 2018 7:55 pm

Found this link on D&D Wiki :

For as long as time can remember, every king has had one, or several, Court Fools to aid him in entertainment. Not only were they used as pieces of performance, but also as a hidden ally to the King. At birth, they're trained in items such as instruments and knives, actions such as dancing and striking, and perseverance like no other. Despite their harsh treatment, name calling, sullying, and straight abuse, they are very proficient and very lethal assassins. Jesters (Court Fools), tend to purposefully do silly and rather dumb things to try and attract the idea of them being a defenseless, useless, and harmless patron. They are trained to speak in lies and charm the crowd with their speech pattern. A proper Jester can talk his way out of many things, and into many things. They have the ability to lie on the fly and do anything it takes to hide the truth without falter in their words.

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Post by shesheyan » Mon May 14, 2018 8:25 pm

GMWestermeyer wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 6:07 pm
I LOVE the jester class. One of my unrealized dreams is to play one. Probably for the best, I am not at all funny. But this is just a brilliant class.

I've also never had a player willing to play one in a game I DM... I hope to add one as an NPC to a game soon.
After the demise of my female paladin, The White Maiden ( :lol: ), I needed something different in tone... then the Dragon Magazine arrived at the local store. I fell in love with the Jester class. The DM accepted my request and was allowed to play him. He didn't last very long sadly, compared with the power level of other characters, he didn't contribute enough to the fights. I retired him in favor of a Chaotic Good Cleric of Boccob.

I have a project I'm thinking about for my next mini-campaign, after the Blackmoor-Spelljammer cross over in currently working on. The general idea is a traveling circus goes around Mystara offering shows in cities and towns. Characters are members of the circus. A jester will fit perfectly in this type of urban intrigue campaign. ;)
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Post by Tim Baker » Mon May 14, 2018 9:02 pm

The OSR game Adventures Dark & Deep is intended to be a "what-if" system that looks at how a 2nd edition of AD&D would've evolved had Gary Gygax been involved. The Jester is included as a class in the system, and is based on the version in Dragon.

You can take a look at the whole system or just check out the Bard (for $1).
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Post by BotWizo » Mon May 14, 2018 9:32 pm

Played a duelist, from that same issue, but not a jester.

I felt the duelist was underpowered as well, compared to a fighter, the classes in that issue were kinda cool, but didn't really last in our games.
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Post by shesheyan » Tue May 15, 2018 1:07 am

BotWizo wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 9:32 pm
Played a duelist, from that same issue, but not a jester.

I felt the duelist was underpowered as well, compared to a fighter, the classes in that issue were kinda cool, but didn't really last in our games.
It was the same with the Ninja class I let one of my players use. He was very good at evading damage but couldn't deliver any in return. It was very strange to watch. Avoid damage... fail to hit...avoid damage... fail to hit... my player decided to play something else after two games.

I think that is why they were called NPC classes. If a DM decided to use them he could give them 3-5 levels above the level of the party to make them threatening. But as a class that follows the progression of other classes they were simply underpowered and not fun to play.
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Re: Jester class?

Post by bayonetbrant » Tue May 15, 2018 3:41 am

BotWizo wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 9:32 pm
Played a duelist, from that same issue, but not a jester.
The Duelist was in issue #73

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Re: Jester class?

Post by BotWizo » Tue May 15, 2018 6:02 pm

bayonetbrant wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 3:41 am
BotWizo wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 9:32 pm
Played a duelist, from that same issue, but not a jester.
The Duelist was in issue #73

https://youtu.be/vmmJ-GcdCBU
ya you are right, I think they were also in a best of dragon or something, I believe it had a silver cover with a brass/bronze dragon flying at you.

best of Dragon volume IV -- google fu

classes;
Bandit
Bounty Hunter
Cloistered Cleric
Death Master
Duelist
Jester
Scribe
Smith

Also had article about two weapon fighting
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Post by bayonetbrant » Wed May 16, 2018 1:25 am

They would occasionally collect the character classes in the anthologies, but they all appeared elsewhere first :)
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