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Post by Graeme » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:21 pm

A brief Q&A on HR3, my Celts Campaign Sourcebook for AD&D 2nd Edition. http://bit.ly/1rbSp2H

Also, an outtake from the book is posted in my freebies section: https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/freebies/

Oh, and while you're there, please check out the "My Books" page (https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/my-books/). This lists everything that still earns me royalties [rattles tin cup]. Thanks! :D
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Post by AuldDragon » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:05 pm

Thanks for sharing, it was a fascinating read! The HR series of books were a real highlight of the 2nd Edition era, so it's great to hear from the author of one of them. I only got the Celts sourcebook some 10 years ago, but I'm glad I eventually did.

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Post by Hugin » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:22 am

Indeed. Thanks for sharing with us!

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Re: HR3 Celts Campaign Sourcebook Q&A

Post by Havard » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:14 pm

Hi Graeme! :)

I always liked the Celts HR sourcebook.

Although we never ran a traditional Celts campaign set on earth, this sourcebook provided inspiration for several of our campaigns including one set on the Moonshaes of the Forgotten Realms and my Blackmoor campaign set in the Vales region of Blackmoor.

Thanks for sharing!

Is there anything you wanted to include in the book that was never used?

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Re: HR3 Celts Campaign Sourcebook Q&A

Post by Big Mac » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:38 am

Graeme wrote:A brief Q&A on HR3, my Celts Campaign Sourcebook for AD&D 2nd Edition. http://bit.ly/1rbSp2H

Also, an outtake from the book is posted in my freebies section: https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/freebies/
Thanks for turning your email from Tamara Rüther into a Q&A that everyone else who likes your book can read. (It seems like, people have taken your topic as an invitation to ask more questions. :o )

There are quite a few people who are interested in the workings of D&D, from an academic point of view, even if a lot of them are amateurs rather than people studying for a degree. So thanks (to both of you) for sharing this. Has Tamara Rüther told you how her research paper is going? Is she likely to upload some sort of examination of Celtic culture in various different RPGs anywhere where we might see it (and see how she compares your work to other gaming products and the original source material)?

I've updated the article that the Book-House on The Piazza has for HR3 Celts Campaign Sourcebook, with a link to your Q&A (and this topic and a couple of reviews I just found on RPG Geek).

While I was there, I noticed (on Ashtagon's Amazon price checking gizmo) that there was a dead-tree copy on sale for £13.89 UKP + shipping! :cool: (So I bought it quick, before writing this reply, in case a ninja beat me to the bargain! :twisted: I've been waiting for a copy of that book to show up at a price I want to pay for a long time. So thanks for the random encounter that led me to roll a 20 on my spot check. :mrgreen: )
Graeme wrote:Oh, and while you're there, please check out the "My Books" page (https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/my-books/). This lists everything that still earns me royalties [rattles tin cup]. Thanks! :D
:lol: @ the tin cup. :D

You might want to go to the User Control Panel > Profile > Edit signature page and stick a link to your "tin cup" into your forum signature. That way anyone who wants to buy your stuff can find it from any topic where they are talking to you (instead of needing to hunt for this specific post of yours). :)

One thing I thought was interesting, was this:
graemedavis at Graeme Davis website wrote:The AD&D Celts Campaign Sourcebook included a lot of material taken from the later folklore of the Celtic Fringe, especially Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. This was partly because the Irish sagas which made up my main documentary source contained very little in the way of monsters and magic and I felt that an AD&D supplement absolutely needed these elements. Since my earliest days of playing D&D, and then AD&D, I had turned to British folklore and faerie lore as a source of ideas, and at the time of writing the New Age movement, then in its early days, was beginning the process of coalescing Celtic traditions and later faerie lore into a coherent world-view.
I am glad you have gone beyond the Irish mythology for this book.

The one thing I've been thinking about this book (and the other HR books) is to try to turn each one into a complete gameworld based on that one culture...

...or an entire crystal sphere. :P

Several years back, I started working on something called Nwfrespace: A set of three nested spelljammer spheres, based on some stuff I read in a Celtic book. Being able to have different types of Celtic cultures to mix together and contrast with each other could actually be very useful for that.
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Post by Big Mac » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:46 am

Havard wrote:Is there anything you wanted to include in the book that was never used?
There's this:
graemedavis at Graeme Davis website wrote:The only editing that I remember is the omission of the rules for the tathlum (which I have since posted to my blog). At the time I thought this was because the subject matter was rather gruesome, involving severed heads as it did, but I never found out the reason for the cut. Perhaps my rules were weak, too – this was my first attempt at writing for AD&D Second Edition.
It's an interesting idea. The rules look a bit niche (what with you needing to chop off the head of one person in order to make a magic weapon that can hurt their relatives) and also needing to learn how to use a specific type of sling weapon...but throw the weapon with your hand instead of actually using a sling. But the spirit of the rules looks pretty good. I'd be interested to know why TSR cut this, rather than ask Graeme to tweak the rules or the flavour text.

Who knows. They might have just been trying to get the book to fit the right size and not miss the deadline. It could have been a case of "We don't have time to talk to Graeme, and cutting this gets the job done." :?
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Re: HR3 Celts Campaign Sourcebook Q&A

Post by Graeme » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:05 pm

For anyone who is interested, I just uploaded another Celts article to my Freebies page (https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/freebies/). It was my first attempt at Celts in AD&D, from Imagine #17. The Celtic-themed adventure "The Taking of Siandabhair" is also there. Enjoy!
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Re: HR3 Celts Campaign Sourcebook Q&A

Post by Graeme » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:41 pm

Oh, and although it's slightly-off-topic, I have to say that I was very impressed with Ken and Jo Walton's GURPS Celtic Myth when it appeared a year or two later. It relies more on the Welsh sources where my book leans on the Irish ones, and it does a very nice job of capturing the otherworldly, magical feel of Celtic lore that would later develop into Welsh and English faerie lore.

A PDF version is still available from Steve Jackson Games: http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/Celtic/
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Post by genghisdon » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:02 am

Thanks for the links, info, the the Celts! splatbook back in the day (among many other cool products)

I did not get it immediately when it came out, but you definitely added cool crunch that most other historical series simply did not. :D

The ideas for the "proficiency slot" as a later editions "feats" would be are pretty cool for the game, or even more general S&S type or low magic games

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Re: HR3 Celts Campaign Sourcebook Q&A

Post by rabindranath72 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:02 am

Oh wonderful a Q&A thread!
HR3 is one of my favourite gaming books ever.
I have a question about magic in the setting; there are some contradictions/missing information in the book, so perhaps you can shed some light.

1) On page 21, druids are listed to have minor access to Animal, Plant, Weather and Charm, but then on table 6 p.32 it's also listed the Protection sphere. Now, since the following discussion on p.32-33 is about access to other spheres, and Protection is not mentioned, I reckon that p.21 is missing Protection. Is that the case?

2) On p. 21 bards are listed to have minor access to All, Charm and Divination, but then on table 6 p.32, the sphere All is listed as major. Which is it? Also, War is mentioned on table 6 but omitted from p.21 (again, an omission from p. 21?)

3) On p. 22 manteis are listed to have major access to Divination and wizards' Greater Divination, but on table 6 p.32 Greater Divination is listed as minor. Which is it?

Thanks in advance!

Antonio

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