[Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

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[Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

Postby Angel Tarragon » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:24 pm

The more I learn about Laterre the more I think about Ravenloft...namely Barovie and Strahd Von Zarovich. I think I love the idea of Strahd being from Laterre so much that I am going to try to work on something linking the two together...some sort of fannon Gazetteer article perhaps.
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Re: [Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

Postby Robin » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:21 pm

As Germany and East Europe was an Important Factor in Real World Earth from which Laterre is imagined, I think it should have its reflection on Laterre too.

This could indeed be a Eastern German part eastern Europe origin...Making Strahd's domain from Raveloft the more possible... :twisted:

I personally would refrain then from making it like the Ravenloft setting a seperate region, but keep the barrier of Fog making the area accessible, yet more unpleasing to enter. instead only enter/leave upon Strahd's will as per racenloft setting Rules.
This would make the region more part of an interesting setting/world. :shock: :twisted:

Keep also in mind that Laterre is based on a time period of great technological inventions on Real World, so many could have found their way there too, making the region maybe more interesting...... :geek: :shock:

just a weird mindleap ;) :o ; The game Shadowrun is a merging of fantasy/current time world....what if that is Laterre's future? :ugeek: :mrgreen:
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Re: [Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

Postby Havard » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:46 pm

Only slightly related, but in this thread I speculated that Stahd could come from Mystara proper. I realize that is not what this thread is about, but some of the comments in that thread might be relevant especially the discussion related to the timeline.

What exactly makes one want to place Strahd's homeworld as Laterre?

Robin: You mention Germany. Are you thinking about Bavaria=Barovia?

Gemany at the time of the d'Ambreville family would be the German Holy Roman Empire.

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Re: [Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

Postby Angel Tarragon » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:40 am

All great ideas Robin.

You wish to check out this thread; [WotC] Gothic Matrix: The Cyberpunk Ravenloft Domain Project
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Re: [Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

Postby Robin » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:27 pm

Havard wrote:Robin: You mention Germany. Are you thinking about Bavaria=Barovia?

Gemany at the time of the d'Ambreville family would be the German Holy Roman Empire.

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I always thought the Time of the D'Ambreville family was more around the renaissance or just before it...as this was the era where magic was suggested to be known and most persecuted by the church, in an attempt to keep people under control and reject freedom...just as many inventions were ignored/ridiculed/or even banned by the church in real world earth.

Although I understand the connection of Bavaria to Barovia...my link was more to the Austrian/German empire in the era of Sissi...more or less equal to the renaissance, also as this region (Germany and East Europe) enveloped great regions of Rumania/Hungary/Slavia...where vampires, witches, Golems, and giants are thought to exist up to this date in the real world (I have been there and there are regions where there are indeed accounts of people who say they met proof/existence or even encountered these...the region where giants are thought to live are even up to this date forbidden for research....I have seen things which could have been giant structures, but was escorted out of the region...but the locals tell more than the state allows...you learn a lot from them...and are shown proof once in a while)
That was more my idea...truly befitting a region similar to Mystara ...at least if the rumors/legends are real ;)
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Re: [Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

Postby Cthulhudrew » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:59 pm

Robin wrote:I always thought the Time of the D'Ambreville family was more around the renaissance or just before it...as this was the era where magic was suggested to be known and most persecuted by the church, in an attempt to keep people under control and reject freedom...just as many inventions were ignored/ridiculed/or even banned by the church in real world earth.


The d'Ambrevilles should be located within/around the general time frame of the Averoigne stories. Those stories largely take place between the 12th-14th centuries (with some exceptions, one being a much later tale- "The End of the Story"- and one being a time travel adventure that sends the protagonist many centuries into the past*). X2 crammed many of those stories into one period of time, but they should all still happen at or around the period of 12-14th century Europe.

As there is an active Inquisition in Averoigne at the time of X2, I liked tying elements of the original background of the module (with the d'Ambrevilles practicing dark magic, rather than being the generally more benevolent- if eccentric- characters of Gaz3 and beyond) and the d'Ambrevilles consorting with Mythos powers (such as Tsathoggua, CAS' most prominent addition to the Mythos), as well as the earliest inquisitions of Catharism in France (Cathar-Cthulhu, get it? :lol: ). I placed the d'Ambrevilles later in the 14th century, both due to personal interest in the 100 Years' War era, and to also tie it in with the period of Papal occupancy in Avignon, and to generally place it in/around the time of the stories.

Now that said (at perhaps OT-approaching length), one thing to consider is that whatever time frame the d'Ambrevilles originally came from Laterre to Mystara was, centuries have passed on both Mystara and Laterre, so the time period of current Laterre is going to be much later- probably around the time frame of CAS' The End of the Story mentioned above, which is set in 1787 or thereabouts, as I recall.

*Interestingly, there is also a brief treatment of a short story in Clark Ashton Smith's notes that would have been set in Roman-occupied Averoigne.
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Re: [Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

Postby Robin » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:29 pm

interesting Chtulhudrew ;)
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Re: [Laterre] Postulating Strahds' Homeworld

Postby ripvanwormer » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:09 am

There's an earlier thread on Strahd's homeworld here. This world seems to be a more high-fantasy setting than Laterre, with orcs and court mages and powerful priestesses. It would potentially work really well as Vidim, the Kingdom of Ravens in Kobold Press's Midgard setting, with some tweaks. Like Barovia, Vidim seems based on Wallachia/Romania (and it's literally called the Kingdom of Ravens, and worships a solar deity, so it seems like a close fit). Or you could sandwich Barovia in between Vidim and Domovogrod and identify the Vistani with the Kariv and the Tergs with the Khazzaki.

I placed X2 in the summer of 1281, when The Colossus of Ylourgne was set, as the creation of the Colossus seemed to me to be the event least likely to be repeated.
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