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Myojo's Donshu

Post by xoronthran » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:35 am

Anyone know where Myojo picked up his pet donshu referred to in Dragon 168, p. 109?

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Re: Myojo's Donshu

Post by NPCDave » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:16 pm

I haven't looked at anything in awhile, but assuming you couldn't find any mention of it prior to Dragon #168, Bruce is dropping it into the story and the safest assumption would be that Myojo brought it with him from Myoshima and always had it while on the Princess Ark. This is based on its description in the Champions of Mystara box set that it is essentially a rakasta-type monkey.

This wouldn't be the first time Bruce dropped a new pet into the storyline of the Princess Ark series by casually mentioning it later on and its presence being retroactive to earlier in the timeline. Early in the series the Princess Ark first encounters night dragons and escapes, later visiting the island nation of Cestia peacefully. Later on, after the Princess Ark has entered the Hollow World, having been dragged by a colossal Vulcanian sloth through the dead magic zone of the polar opening, Bruce mentions that he has a bat he picked up while in Cestia, and keeps in his chamber. The subject comes up because a Nithian wizardess is visiting the Ark and the bat seems afraid of her.

Later we learn the Nithian is actually Synn the night dragon in disguise. Even later(Dragon #164) we discover that the bat is actually Ramissur in polymorphed form, the boltman that Haldemar had to abandon when they first escaped the night dragons. Synn was using Ramissur to spy on and locate the Princess Ark.

But this retroactive introduction of the bat creates a continuity error, since this means the bat was still in polymorphed form while the Princess Ark was dragged through the dead magic zone of the polar opening.

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Re: Myojo's Donshu

Post by xoronthran » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:24 am

Thanks NPCDave.

Interesting point you make about Ramissur and the Anti-Magic Zone. At face value I would agree that the anti-magic zone would work as a dispel magic on the polymorph other (if that's what Synn cast) and Ramissur should have transformed back to human size where he would have been mutilated in the undersized metal cage.

But, what if the anti-magic zone only "dispels magic" or stops magic from functioning on items/creatures that light up when a detect magic spell is cast. For example, if a creature had been the recipient of healing spells or potions, the creature wouldn't detect as having a magical effect for the healing or suddenly suffer damaged as the wounds open up again when entering the anti-magic zone. So, does a polymorphed creature detect as magical? And would a polymorphed creature necessarily revert to natural form by entering an anti-magic zone, as opposed to being targeted with a dispel magic effect?

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Re: Myojo's Donshu

Post by NPCDave » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:49 am

Later editions were helpful in categorizing magical effects, and when it comes to certain spells like healing spells, they categorized them as having a duration of "Instantaneous." So the magic immediately happens, the wound is healed, and then there is no magical effect to dispel later. A polymorph spell normally has a duration of a certain length or "Permanent", and any duration other than instantaneous, including permanent, is subject to dispel effects.

I believe a polymorphed creature does detect as magical, but it might depends on which ruleset you are talking about. The dead magic zone at the polar openings has always been an issue that the books have always had trouble with. Bruce Heard described in the Princess Ark series that the Heldannic Knights could not go through it with their ships because their receptacles were cut off from the artifact that keeps their ship airborne while in the dead magic zone. This was ignored by Ann Dupuis in the Almanacs where the ships are able to go through. The Princess Ark in the Almanacs also gets pulled through the opening on a snow sled with golems dragging it.

So as a DM you just have to work out a solution for these continuity errors as you see fit.

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