* = This is an in-joke for TBeholder.
Havard wrote:This boxed set arrived at my post office last week. I originally decided not to buy this product since it didnt seem to have anything to offer, but now that I have it in my posession, I was surprised to discover how firmly this can be considered a Mystara product. The box contains the following:
* A CD
* A Poster with the art from the K:KoA cover, with a Mystara logo on it.
* A Poster with maps for all the 4 adventures
* 6 cardboard cards with pregen characters
* 1 cardboard card with quick reference info
* 1 cardboard card with a map of "The Town"
* 1 Dungeon Master's Screen
* 1 booklet with Cleric spells
* 1 booklet with Wizard spells
* 1 booklet: The Rules Book
* 1 booklet: Monsters & Treasure
* 1 booklet: Adventures (Includes 4 adventures connected to Karameikos)
* 6 plastic minuatures corresponding with the pregen characters.
I was reading your other thread about this ([First Quest] The adventures of Giff-Captain Blotomus
) in the Spelljammer forum, and found that your link to the TSR Archive was dead. So I went searching for information on First Quest and found out something (on Tome of Treasures) that may be of interest to Mystara fans. The First Quest boxed set has actually been published four
That in itself, is not so interesting, but the fact that the other three boxed sets are not
called First Quest might
So, the First Quest brand name has been dropped (a shame in my opinion, as it is an interesting name for what might have been expanded into another Mystara subsetting)...
...it seems very much to me that, Mystara has very quietly switched from being "the
Dungeons & Dragons campaign setting" to being "the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons campaign setting".
At least, it seems that way from the point of view of an introductory boxed set. I belived that someone told me that Thunder Rift was originally set up as a "starter area" for D&D. So this makes it look like they have made Mystara (or rather the Karameikos region of Mystara) into the "starter setting" for AD&D. I don't think anyone has mentioned this to me before, so maybe some of you have not noticed this yet. (If that is the case, I'll have raised my Mystara-fu level and will be able to drink my weak lemon drink.
Comparing your contents for TSR1105 (First Quest) and Tome of Treasures contents for TSR1134 adds to my interest:
Tome of Treasures page for TSR1134 wrote:
- Interactive audio CD with over 60 minutes of digital sound
- 6 plastic player character miniatures
- Player's handbook (32 pages, 1134XXX1901) has basic rules, expanded rules, and spells
- 6 hero cards — one for each character (1134XXX0601)
- DUNGEON MASTER® Guide (64 pages, 1134XXX1902) and Screen (three-fold, 1134XXX1401) - with adventures!
- MONSTROUS MANUAL™ - monsters and treasures in full color (32 pages, 1134XXX1903)
- Full-color double-sided dungeon map (1134XXX0701)
- Player aid/character sheet card (1134XXX0601) and town map card
- 7 adventure dice
Tome of Treasure's page for Introduction to Advanced Dungeons & Dragons®
says "This is basically identical to the 1994 FIRST QUEST boxed set. The box and the interior layout was adapted to the new 'red logo' AD&D design (1995) and the art was exchanged."
Take a look specifically at the three books (as they look totally different). First Quest
had "Rules Book", "Monsters and Treasures Book" and "Adventure Book". Introduction to Advanced Dungeons & Dragons®
had "Player's Handbook", "Dungeon Master's Guide" and "Monstrous Manual". (You can see cover pictures on the Tome of Treasures pages for the first two products in the list above.)
Introduction to Advanced Dungeons & Dragons® looks
like a totally different thing - the PHB, DMG, MM reboot makes this look like a miniature version of D&D!
I would never have thought that this was the same thing as First Quest
in a million years (apart from the fact that the character sheet picture looks the same). But if Tome of Treasures is correct (and I don't see why they wouldn't be) that means that people at TSR were doing their best to get Mystara accepted as an AD&D campaign setting (and as I said above - perhaps as the
"default" campaign setting).
I think it would have been interesting to have seen a follow up to First Quest, but sadly it seems that TSR's idea of a follow up was to keep changing the cover and selling the same product to people. (I think I'd have been really
hacked off if I had bought First Quest
, Introduction to Advanced Dungeons & Dragons®
and The Complete Starter Set
and brought them home only to discover I had bought the same thing three times!
I'm mostly interested in First Quest because of the Mystara/Spelljammer connection. I might
go pick up Introduction to Advanced Dungeons & Dragons®
just so that I can compare notes to Havard.