That works.OldDawg wrote:I have Mohacs at 5200 BC, and the First Republic at 5000 BC. (via Mishler's timeline I believe)
I don't think he is in the DA series either. He appears in the First Fantasy Campaign (JG) and older D&D documents, such as the Domesday Book #13. Robert I of Geneva is of course, a reference to Rob J. Kuntz, "King" of the Castles & Crusade Society at the time. Arneson put him into his Blackmoor history as a friendly gesture to mr. Kuntz.In what source? I know he's mentioned on a timeline at your site, but he was never mentioned in the DA series to the best of my recollectionRobert is also specified as the founder of Blackmoor however.
The event also found its way into the unofficial Blackmoor gazetteer by David Ross.
My thoughts exactly!I'd prefer keeping the term more restricted, but I have no problem with other "Elder Evils" like the kopru popping up. The worms just get all the publicity
Lol!No, it was the bearsharktopus!!!!If we include the Leviathan, this could be the same creature that later plagued King Milen (providing a link to a later age)!
Fair enough. Depending on Zargons abilities, perhaps he can still influence arctic explorers through their dreams?As SE Brun really wouldn't feature in the Burrower Wars (ice cap and all), I doubt Zargon will make an appearance either. I'd rather leave him as one of the ancient horrors whose prison was weakened by the Burrorwers but whose release came from Cynidceans who "dug too deep."
[/quote]Not sure I know who the first two are. I sense my AD&D-fu is weak today. The Order of the Frog was listed as being founded in Vestfold in 4128 BC on the timeline I mentioned above. Which puts it well outside the window of the Burrower Wars.I am also wondering about using Tsaothoggua/Brr'brrt/Stodos as such a creature, being responsible for the original Order of the Frog.
The Order of the Frog was founded at this time by St. Stephen, but many sources lead to speculation that the deity of the Order is much older and that St. Stephen was a mere pawn of forces greater than himself, working to recreate a much older Frogman race. The ZGG line uses the name Brr'brrt for the deity of the Frog, but most likely, C.A.S' Tsathoggua and Lovecraft's Deep Ones were the inspiration for the Frogmen of Blackmoor. It has been suggested that Stodos is the Mystaran equivalent of the Frog deity. Of course, he is an Immortal, but he does fit quite well with the overall Lovecraft-ish theme you seem to be working towards...