The Mystara Wiki

[Havard]

How many of you have visited the Mystara at Wiki http://mystara.us/wiki/home ?

I know GP has been doing some work there. I just registered myself, but I'm still learning how that stuff works. It would be nice if more people helped out. What sort of things would be most useful to have on that wiki?

Havard

[agathokles]

How many of you have visited the Mystara at Wiki http://mystara.us/wiki/home ?

I know GP has been doing some work there. I just registered myself, but I'm still learning how that stuff works. It would be nice if more people helped out. What sort of things would be most useful to have on that wiki?

IMO, a wiki is best suited for reference works. You've got two main options to contribute: either go to Angelo's dictionary page and add pages for some entries, or click on any red link while navigating the wiki and create a new page.

GP

[Gecko]

I'm going to be putting up an initial index for "c" entries fairly soon, but I don't currently plan on adding "d" or later entries at this time (too much work). I had most of the work for a through c done a couple years back for another project, so I just had to wikify it and add a few entries that I noticed I missed. There are undoutably many other entries that can be added to the a/b/c index's that I missed, as well as entries for the other letters of the alphabet, so everyone, please feel free to add to it. It is a continual work in progress.

[Big Mac]

What sort of things would be most useful to have on that wiki?

As I mentioned before (in another thread) I'd like to see an encyclopedia of Mystara canon.

And I just said on the Mystara 3E Conversion Project's Mystara 3e/d20 thread that I'd like to see someone take their work and make an online version that did for the Mystra Campaign Setting what the Hypertext d20 SRD does for the SRD (core rules of D&D).

I just found out (and as an owner of a wiki, I should have known about this earlier) about something called namespaces. I'd heard about them before, but didn't realise that namespaces work a bit like computer directories. Namespaces can be made to look invisible (if for some reason you want to do that) or can be included in the wiki's search features.

In terms of The Mystara Wiki, it means that you could create different namespaces for different projects and allow them to work independently, but share the one wiki. So a canon wiki could stay in a canon namespace (probably located somewhere like mystara.us/wiki/canon or mystara.us/wiki/pedia), an Online Mystara Campaign Setting could stay in a namespace like mystara.us/wiki/m3e and you could have other namespaces for things like lists of Mystara products.

I would recommend that The Mystara Wiki picks a project that is very easy for novices to help with. That would allow people to play with the wiki even if they don't know much about Mystara itself. You are likely to find that within the Mystara community there are people who know a ton of Mystara knowledge, but are rubbish with wikis, and other people who are great with wikis, but don't know enough about Mystara to help. If you can find a way to buddy people up, then you can use the Mystara experts as generators of source material and the other people as wiki-gnomes.

[copperblade]

I think the simplest thing for new users to contribute to are probably the Indices: a list of simple one-liner definitions. The index pages have been added to the front page for easy access.

Here is an example of one: http://mystara.us/wiki/indexb

[Gecko]

well, using Big Mac's idea about namespaces, I've started a genealogy section on there, and I've put up the barebones beginings of entries for Glantri, Darokin, and Alphatia.
- Does anyone think this would be useful or is it a waste of time?
- Any comments on the format thus far?

Another thought, what about an onomastikon nampespace consisting of numbered lists of culture appropriate names for creating mystaran names for characters? Numbered so that you could simply roll on the list(s) to generate a name.
- Would that be useful? (or am I the only one who has trouble comming up with appropriate character names? )
- Would we need any-kind of special permission to reproduce those sections from various sources? i.e. one of the survival guides had something like that IIRC.

[hihama]

This is looking good. And quite happy that somebody is using information from my old writings.

And to answer your question about Serena in Wiki. She is cousin of Pelagiri's on his mother's side. She is not originally Aendyr, but was raised and adopted by her aunt (Pelagiri's mother) after her parents died when she was young.

[Chimpman]

well, using Big Mac's idea about namespaces, I've started a genealogy section on there, and I've put up the barebones beginings of entries for Glantri, Darokin, and Alphatia.
- Does anyone think this would be useful or is it a waste of time?
- Any comments on the format thus far?

I don't know about others, but I think this is a great idea! For one, it could help greatly with my current prject (which is creating heraldic shields for the nobles of Mystara). I'm currently working on Glantrian nobles, but plan to get to each of the published Gaz's in turn (and then on to fan created material from there).

So, yes, if you have more matrial, please post it up. I for one will use it!

[Gecko]

Hihama: Your work on glantri in the 9th century is the perfect source for a project like this and in fact it is the inspiration for the genealogy project as a whole. And thanks for clearing up Serena, I'll probably have more questions for you in the future.

Chipman: If you could use the information sooner, then (as I mentioned in my PM) I could email what I got to you if you PM me your addy.

All: I had originally though of doing the genealogy up till circa 1000/1001 but now I think we should include even newer dates. The question becomes what to do about things like Morphail (does anyone have the list of supposed Morphail's over the years? It could become like the M-Reuss with Morphails instead of Heinrichs ) and Synn's masquerade as the Dolores Hillsbury .

All: The great thing about a wiki is that we don't have to post it here then wait for one person to update some master document or sticky post, but rather everyone and anyone can pitch in (be it on this or another section), so don't be shy! Feel free to jump on in!

[hihama]

All: I had originally though of doing the genealogy up till circa 1000/1001 but now I think we should include even newer dates. The question becomes what to do about things like Morphail (does anyone have the list of supposed Morphail's over the years? It could become like the M-Reuss with Morphails instead of Heinrichs ) and Synn's masquerade as the Dolores Hillsbury .

My take of Morphail is that his age is bit mysterious. Considering that Ambrevilles had been there for ages, nobody pays too much attention to Morphail's seeming agelessness. It is known that he has been ruler of Boldavia already before the establishment of the Principalities, but what is not known is that he is actually the same Morphail that lead the Boldavians to the Highlands over two hundred years ago.

[Gecko]

All: I had originally though of doing the genealogy up till circa 1000/1001 but now I think we should include even newer dates. The question becomes what to do about things like Morphail (does anyone have the list of supposed Morphail's over the years? It could become like the M-Reuss with Morphails instead of Heinrichs ) and Synn's masquerade as the Dolores Hillsbury .

My take of Morphail is that his age is bit mysterious. Considering that Ambrevilles had been there for ages, nobody pays too much attention to Morphail's seeming agelessness. It is known that he has been ruler of Boldavia already before the establishment of the Principalities, but what is not known is that he is actually the same Morphail that lead the Boldavians to the Highlands over two hundred years ago.

hmm, I had been refering to the IC description given at the Paparazzi Glantri site on the Princes of the Millennium section's entry about Morphail:

... The truth of the matter is, the romantic figure (often said to be a nosferatu) is actually the seventh in a line of long-lived Boldavian rulers, all named Morphail by tradition. Of course, the uncanny resemblance of each son to father is nothing remarkable, considering how inbred the Boldavian nobility is. Even the Prince’s eccentricities (attributed to his being one of the undead) are actually just caused by the thinning of Traladaran bloodlines...

(the bold emphasis is my addition) which I had presumed was inspired by some cannon source that I was unaware of. But after reading what you just wrote I can also see that being the case. I think I'll have to ponder both taken for a bit to decide which I want to utilize in the future. Thank you.

[JoeNotCharles]

hmm, I had been refering to the IC description given at the Paparazzi Glantri site on the Princes of the Millennium section's entry about Morphail:

That link gives a Not Found error, even after I take off the extra quote mark.

[Gecko]

That link gives a Not Found error, even after I take off the extra quote mark.

hmmm... try this one http://www.geocities.com/paparazzi_glantri/glitterati/prince1.htm (seems it must be .htm not .html). I'll update my original post and then delete this message after a day or two.

(Edit: Since this message has been replied to I can't delete it, no big deal though)

[hihama]

... The truth of the matter is, the romantic figure (often said to be a nosferatu) is actually the seventh in a line of long-lived Boldavian rulers, all named Morphail by tradition. Of course, the uncanny resemblance of each son to father is nothing remarkable, considering how inbred the Boldavian nobility is. Even the Prince’s eccentricities (attributed to his being one of the undead) are actually just caused by the thinning of Traladaran bloodlines...

You can combine this with what I wrote. Paparazzi Glantri´s information is what most of the Glantrians think, what I wrote is what the noble's know about the matter.

[JoeNotCharles]

That link gives a Not Found error, even after I take off the extra quote mark.

hmmm... try this one http://www.geocities.com/paparazzi_glantri/glitterati/prince1.htm (seems it must be .htm not .html). I'll update my original post and then delete this message after a day or two.

That works, thanks!

[Big Mac]

Bump!

I've found a wiki that wants to be an index of all other wikis (called WikiIndex). Their plan is that people can use their wiki to find any wiki that deals with a subject they are interested in.

There was already a page for Forgotten Realms Wiki when I found this wiki of wikis.

I made a page for Spelljammer Wiki a while ago and recently made a page for The Great Library of Greyhawk.

I'd like to make a page for Mystara Wiki (unless someone from the Mystara Wiki team would rather have the honour).

I need a hand with a couple of things:

1. The name - is it "Mystara Wiki" or "Mystara Wiki and Reference Guide"?
2. The logo - where can I download it, so that I can upload a copy to WikiIndex?
3. The description - I could just copy and paste the text from the main page of the wiki, but do you have a short and sharp "mission statement" that might look better to outsiders?

[copperblade]

Bump!

I've found a wiki that wants to be an index of all other wikis (called WikiIndex). Their plan is that people can use their wiki to find any wiki that deals with a subject they are interested in.

There was already a page for Forgotten Realms Wiki when I found this wiki of wikis.

I made a page for [urlhttp://www.wikiindex.org/Spelljammer_Wiki]Spelljammer Wiki[/url] a while ago and recently made a page for The Great Library of Greyhawk.

I'd like to make a page for Mystara Wiki (unless someone from the Mystara Wiki team would rather have the honour).

I need a hand with a couple of things:

1. The name - is it "Mystara Wiki" or "Mystara Wiki and Reference Guide"?
2. The logo - where can I download it, so that I can upload a copy to WikiIndex?
3. The description - I could just copy and paste the text from the main page of the wiki, but do you have a short and sharp "mission statement" that might look better to outsiders?

Thanks. Yeah, these are all things that need to be sort of filled out or decided on.

1. I would just say "Mystara Wiki"
2. The logos I've used are here: http://mystara.us/lib/tpl/monobook/user/
3. Maybe we can come up with something. I think the main point of the Mystara Wiki now is as a reference guide to the world of Mystara, including History, Geography, Biographies, and other cultural details.

I'd also like people to be able to include their own personal non-official mystara stuff in the wiki, but under a different namespace. The front page of the wiki should be reworked to make all of this more clear and easier to use.

I'd still like to get an RSS feed from this forum to post on the wiki too...

[Big Mac]

Thanks. Yeah, these are all things that need to be sort of filled out or decided on.

1. I would just say "Mystara Wiki"
2. The logos I've used are here: http://mystara.us/lib/tpl/monobook/user/
3. Maybe we can come up with something. I think the main point of the Mystara Wiki now is as a reference guide to the world of Mystara, including History, Geography, Biographies, and other cultural details.

OK. I've got a page uploaded to Mystara Wiki. WikiIndex is an open wiki, so anyone from Mystara Wiki should feel free to update the details at any time. (Obviously it would be helpful if you could log in before doing this, as it helps other people track changes, but you can make changes to open wikis, as long as you don't mind the world seeing your IP address.)

I can't get the URL for the logo to work for me. Maybe that is because I only just set up my account (big_mac) and someone needs to approve me.

Anyhoo, because I can't actually write on Mystara Wiki, I've listed the edit mode as "ByInvitation".

I can't get your "special pages" link to work. It just seems to take me to an A-Z listing of all pages. So I couldn't grab the statistics link (like I've uploaded to the pages for Spelljammer Wiki page and The Great Library of Greyhawk).

I've also not included the wiki size as I can't get to the special page that provides that information.

Maybe someone could upload the missing details for me. Otherwise help me get to the special pages, so that I can grab the links I need to get it done.

I've used what you just said for the description, but as WikiIndex is designed for people who know nothing about D&D or Mystara I've said this:

The Mystara Wiki is a reference guide to the Mystara fantasy world created by TSR for the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game. It includes history, geography, biographies, and other cultural details.

The rest of the stuff on the page is wiki-babble.

I'd also like people to be able to include their own personal non-official mystara stuff in the wiki, but under a different namespace. The front page of the wiki should be reworked to make all of this more clear and easier to use.

I've seen people create subpages on their user page. That is one way to do this. Does the DokuWiki allow that sort of thing?

There is a fair amount of discussion over in the Spelljammer forum about pulling together the various Mystaraspace attempts and creating a unified Mystaraspace that includes as much of all of them as possible. I'd like to see that get put up somewhere (maybe in a "mystaraspace" namespace).

I'd still like to get an RSS feed from this forum to post on the wiki too...

I suggest you pop over to The Kippin' Griffin and create a thread to ask about setting up RSS feeds.

[Big Mac]

There are a couple of "projects" that WikiIndex is pushing/supporting.

They might be of interest to the people working on Mystara Wiki. (They might be totally boring to anyone who doesn't edit wikis, but I'm going to assume you are interested if you are still reading. )

The first thing is Wiki-Noding. The idea behind this is that every wiki in the world sets up a page called WikiNode that connects it to similar wikis. The theory behind this is that a person who decides that they don't like a particular wiki, is able to use the WikiNode page to hop over to a similar wiki that they do like. So Mystara Wiki would send some people to similar wikis and other wikis would send some people back to Mystara Wiki. I'm not sure how well that would work in the D&D community, but it certainly sounds like the principle of "enlightened self interest", so it can't hurt.

The second thing is something called TourBusStop. As far as I can see, this is an idea to make a tour route that takes people from wiki to wiki. It all seems a little bit silly to me. But then RPGs are silly too. So if you ever want to see if they will set up a "Dungeons & Dragons bus route", let me know. (I think we both need to make our respective wikis a bit bigger before we can set up a tour, but I'm game if you are.)

[Big Mac]

Someone (I don't know who, but I do know their IP address ) has pointed the image part of the template on WikiIndex directly at your wiki. That is going to eat a bit of your bandwidth, but if you are happy with that, I'm not going to do anything about it.

(If you want to save bandwidth, we can save a copy of the image directly onto WikiIndex and link to that instead.)

[copperblade]

I can't get the URL for the logo to work for me. Maybe that is because I only just set up my account (big_mac) and someone needs to approve me.

Anyhoo, because I can't actually write on Mystara Wiki, I've listed the edit mode as "ByInvitation".

That's weird. It works for me when I'm not logged in. I did block the front page from non-registered users editing because spammers kept replacing the entire page with one of their links.

I can't get your "special pages" link to work. It just seems to take me to an A-Z listing of all pages. So I couldn't grab the statistics link (like I've uploaded to the pages for Spelljammer Wiki page and The Great Library of Greyhawk).

I've also not included the wiki size as I can't get to the special page that provides that information.

Maybe someone could upload the missing details for me. Otherwise help me get to the special pages, so that I can grab the links I need to get it done.

I'll have to install specific plugins for any special things like that since it's not running on MediaWiki. The WikiIndex seems to be more MediaWiki-friendly, or at least relies on certain features to do its thing. There are plugins for DokuWiki that approximate some of these things to a certain extent.

I've used what you just said for the description, but as WikiIndex is designed for people who know nothing about D&D or Mystara I've said this:

The Mystara Wiki is a reference guide to the Mystara fantasy world created by TSR for the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game. It includes history, geography, biographies, and other cultural details.

The rest of the stuff on the page is wiki-babble.

Sounds good to me.

I'd also like people to be able to include their own personal non-official mystara stuff in the wiki, but under a different namespace. The front page of the wiki should be reworked to make all of this more clear and easier to use.

I've seen people create subpages on their user page. That is one way to do this. Does the DokuWiki allow that sort of thing?

Yep. I don't know why the wiki world uses the word "namespaces"--they're really just folders or directories. I could implement them with a slash (/) but by default they're implemented with a colon (:). For my personal campaign stuff I created something like http://mystara.us/campaign:angelo. I wouldn't mind coming up with a good name for another "folder" to put in unofficial stuff. Maybe just http://mystara.us/unofficial:article_name

Again to make this easy for users and guide them, I'll probably have to find a plugin that lets me create a page like http://mystara.us/unofficial that has a box form where people can type in their article name.

There is a fair amount of discussion over in the Spelljammer forum about pulling together the various Mystaraspace attempts and creating a unified Mystaraspace that includes as much of all of them as possible. I'd like to see that get put up somewhere (maybe in a "mystaraspace" namespace).

Yeah sure, I think right now mystara.us while gradually building still could use a lot of exposure.

I'd still like to get an RSS feed from this forum to post on the wiki too...

I suggest you pop over to The Kippin' Griffin and create a thread to ask about setting up RSS feeds.

[/quote]

I've got this thread on watch: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1744

[copperblade]

Someone (I don't know who, but I do know their IP address ) has pointed the image part of the template on WikiIndex directly at your wiki. That is going to eat a bit of your bandwidth, but if you are happy with that, I'm not going to do anything about it.

(If you want to save bandwidth, we can save a copy of the image directly onto WikiIndex and link to that instead.)

I think it's ok to leave for now. If that page ever starts getting tons of traffic, maybe I'll have to switch it over.

[copperblade]

There are a couple of "projects" that WikiIndex is pushing/supporting.

They might be of interest to the people working on Mystara Wiki. (They might be totally boring to anyone who doesn't edit wikis, but I'm going to assume you are interested if you are still reading. )

The first thing is Wiki-Noding. The idea behind this is that every wiki in the world sets up a page called WikiNode that connects it to similar wikis. The theory behind this is that a person who decides that they don't like a particular wiki, is able to use the WikiNode page to hop over to a similar wiki that they do like. So Mystara Wiki would send some people to similar wikis and other wikis would send some people back to Mystara Wiki. I'm not sure how well that would work in the D&D community, but it certainly sounds like the principle of "enlightened self interest", so it can't hurt.

The second thing is something called TourBusStop. As far as I can see, this is an idea to make a tour route that takes people from wiki to wiki. It all seems a little bit silly to me. But then RPGs are silly too. So if you ever want to see if they will set up a "Dungeons & Dragons bus route", let me know. (I think we both need to make our respective wikis a bit bigger before we can set up a tour, but I'm game if you are.)

The first one definitely sounds more promising. We can set up one of those pages, and maybe put it on their list of nodes to show our support. Not sure if we should just create a page called WikiNode, or put it somewhere in a namespace like meta:

[Big Mac]

I can't get the URL for the logo to work for me. Maybe that is because I only just set up my account (big_mac) and someone needs to approve me.

Anyhoo, because I can't actually write on Mystara Wiki, I've listed the edit mode as "ByInvitation".

That's weird. It works for me when I'm not logged in. I did block the front page from non-registered users editing because spammers kept replacing the entire page with one of their links.

I can edit now. There are several "edit" links that appear on all of the pages, that are actually for shared parts of the wiki. Maybe I was trying to edit one of those by mistake.

I can't get your "special pages" link to work. It just seems to take me to an A-Z listing of all pages. So I couldn't grab the statistics link (like I've uploaded to the pages for Spelljammer Wiki page and The Great Library of Greyhawk).

I've also not included the wiki size as I can't get to the special page that provides that information.

Maybe someone could upload the missing details for me. Otherwise help me get to the special pages, so that I can grab the links I need to get it done.

I'll have to install specific plugins for any special things like that since it's not running on MediaWiki. The WikiIndex seems to be more MediaWiki-friendly, or at least relies on certain features to do its thing. There are plugins for DokuWiki that approximate some of these things to a certain extent.

From what I've seen of the two wikis, MediaWiki is a lot harder to run than DokuWiki, but provides more gadgets out of the box. It also has more formatting options, which makes it harder to learn to edit, but lets you do more things.

I suppose it is a swings and roundabouts thing, as to what one you use. I've got a wiki at work, that doesn't have categories and I really miss having those. They are very useful. They eat up editing time (and add work that the visitors might not appreciate) but they do make it easier to find things.

The statistics thing is mainly useful in letting people know how big your wiki is and how fast it is expanding. I should think that at some point it would be very useful to you. But at the moment, maybe you need editors to create content that justifies the work of uploading the add-on.

Anyhoo, if you do get it uploaded, we can add the wiki size to your page. Hopefully, with a bit of a push, you will be able to catch up with my Spelljammer Wiki and get to the 100 page barrier. You certainly have more activity in The Piazza's Mystara forum that there is in the Spelljammer forum. (Maybe you need to install the Havard mod! )

Thorf has been getting the Mystara theads moved back to the restored Mystara forum on the WotC boards, so if someone bookmarks that thread on the wiki, you could use that as something a bit like a "to-do" list.

I've used what you just said for the description, but as WikiIndex is designed for people who know nothing about D&D or Mystara I've said this:

The Mystara Wiki is a reference guide to the Mystara fantasy world created by TSR for the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game. It includes history, geography, biographies, and other cultural details.

The rest of the stuff on the page is wiki-babble.

Sounds good to me.

Great! (Anyway, it can always be updated later, if Mystara Wiki changes focus or adds some new features - like a namespace that lists all the Mystara products and provides PDF download links and ISBN links.)

I'd also like people to be able to include their own personal non-official mystara stuff in the wiki, but under a different namespace. The front page of the wiki should be reworked to make all of this more clear and easier to use.

I've seen people create subpages on their user page. That is one way to do this. Does the DokuWiki allow that sort of thing?

Yep. I don't know why the wiki world uses the word "namespaces"--they're really just folders or directories. I could implement them with a slash (/) but by default they're implemented with a colon (:). For my personal campaign stuff I created something like http://mystara.us/campaign:angelo. I wouldn't mind coming up with a good name for another "folder" to put in unofficial stuff. Maybe just http://mystara.us/unofficial:article_name

Again to make this easy for users and guide them, I'll probably have to find a plugin that lets me create a page like http://mystara.us/unofficial that has a box form where people can type in their article name.

I suppose they use "namespace", because they are "attempting" to avoid computer geek-speak. But in avoiding one geeky term, they create their own replacement geeky-term. I'm not sure if that is more "accessible" to newbies.

In a way, I think that what you do with namespaces is less important than how visitors find their way onto those namespaces.

For example if you had an "unofficial" page at: http://mystara.us/unofficial

That page could then act as the "homepage" of the entire "unofficial project".

You might also need to have a subsection of categories (maybe something like "category:unofficial:cat1" - if that is valid). And you might need to have a root "unofficial" category.

I suppose that once you get one of these subprojects up and running, you can use it to test the concept. The lessons learned can then be rolled out to every other subproject that comes along afterwards.

As for the search thing, people might need to be able to search in just the one namespace. I've been told that I can get this done for me by Wikia (but I'm not able to do it myself). However, it is aparantly a lot of admin work, so they don't do it unless you need it. I'd bet that it would be hard for you to set this sort of thing up. So I'd leave it for now. As long as every links their content correctly and doesn't create "orphan pages" you are probably OK chugging along pushing for regular expansion (as opposed to specialist subprojects).

There is a fair amount of discussion over in the Spelljammer forum about pulling together the various Mystaraspace attempts and creating a unified Mystaraspace that includes as much of all of them as possible. I'd like to see that get put up somewhere (maybe in a "mystaraspace" namespace).

Yeah sure, I think right now mystara.us while gradually building still could use a lot of exposure.

It is quite hard to follow these forum discussions sometimes, so I might even throw something over there myself (so that I can keep up). Some of the people want to make Mystaraspace have as many moons as the real-life solar system, and that level of detail is going to be impossible to track if it isn't documented. (I've actually been trying to talk people into using the known solar system from some sort of significant date when Mystara was still published, in order to cut down on the massive number of moons that are all going to need to be given Mystara-esk names. )

Anyhoo, the Mystara Wiki could be extremely useful for helping to track that stuff. I'm more used to MediaWiki code (and have downloaded the Wikipedia Cheatsheet, to help me use it). I'll have to look around to see if there is a DokuWiki Cheatsheet. (And if you find one, you might want to link to it from your help section.)

I'd still like to get an RSS feed from this forum to post on the wiki too...

I suggest you pop over to The Kippin' Griffin and create a thread to ask about setting up RSS feeds.

I've got this thread on watch: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1744

Hmphf! So have I!

Maybe we should poke Ashtagon!

[Big Mac]

Someone (I don't know who, but I do know their IP address ) has pointed the image part of the template on WikiIndex directly at your wiki. That is going to eat a bit of your bandwidth, but if you are happy with that, I'm not going to do anything about it.

(If you want to save bandwidth, we can save a copy of the image directly onto WikiIndex and link to that instead.)

I think it's ok to leave for now. If that page ever starts getting tons of traffic, maybe I'll have to switch it over.

Ironically, if you have webstats, having that image there means you will be able to see how many people are looking at the WIkiIndex page for your wiki.

There are a couple of "projects" that WikiIndex is pushing/supporting.

They might be of interest to the people working on Mystara Wiki. (They might be totally boring to anyone who doesn't edit wikis, but I'm going to assume you are interested if you are still reading. )

<snip - WikiNode and TourBusStop>

The first one definitely sounds more promising. We can set up one of those pages, and maybe put it on their list of nodes to show our support. Not sure if we should just create a page called WikiNode, or put it somewhere in a namespace like meta:

Everyone else puts this in the main namespace, from what I can see. So your page would be: http://mystara.us/WikiNode (or http://mystara.us/wikinode if DokuWiki is going to turn everything into lower case).

BTW: The WikiIndex page for Mystara Wiki has shot into 7th place for a Google search for the words "mystara wiki".

Weirdly, I am beating that page (as my user page on Mystara Wiki is in 4th place ). (This is probably because I've put long paragraphs on my user page describing what I might be doing on Mystara Wiki - and am therefore using the "magic words" that Google was looking for. Or in other words, Google loves me! )

(You actually have a rival Mystara Wiki out there. I'm not sure if you can get them to collaborate with you. They are using a different wiki engine. Something that looks pretty weird to me.)