Chimpman wrote:Gecko wrote:chimpman wrote:...elves disappearing from the Shires, dwarven expansionists...
wait a sec... are you saying that the gentle elves disappearance coincided with dwarven expansion in the hin lands in the timeline? If so I never made that connection (I thought the elves left long before the dwarves came). If so, some Interesting possibilities there - that's what I get for not knowing my Hinstory.
That's not something I considered actually... but you may have a good point. Let me just check the timelines:
BC 1000: Elves disappear. Realm of Othrong formed.
BC 965: Orcs overthrown. Hindon founded
BC 938: Fall of Hindon. Orcs and dwarves fight over the Shires
BC 929: Dwarven rule of the hin.
So what you suggest may be caused by the dwarves... but probably only indirectly. It looks like the disappearance of the elves would coincide with the rise of Othrong circa BC 1000. The dwarves won't rule for another 70 years...
... but it could very well be the dwarven expansionism that pushes the orcs into hin territory in the first place.
In fact, if you want to be really evil about it, the dwarves might have had some hand in setting up Othrong in the first place. Get the orcs in there to slaughter the elves, and soften up the hin before dwarve rule. In my BC 2300 campaign setting the dwarves blame the elves for causing the GRoF, and if you carry this attitude over, then there could be ample reason for the dwarves to want the elves dead (and for them to use the humanoids to do it).
Havard wrote:No...not the woods!
RobJN wrote:Havard wrote:No...not the woods!
Druid-less, lycanthrope-infested woods to the east of Threshold/Lugsid. What could possibly go wrong?
RobJN wrote:“If you’re just going to guess, we can always call words or wolf,” Jasna said, coins clanking as she fished through the pouch at her belt.
Gecko wrote:RobJN wrote:“If you’re just going to guess, we can always call words or wolf,” Jasna said, coins clanking as she fished through the pouch at her belt.
Gaz 1, p.14 wrote:The copper piece is called the kopec. On the obverse is the great wolf of the inland forests; on the reverse are the (expected) inscriptions, “Grand Duchy of Karameikos” and “One Kopec.”
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