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Weapons Introduced in 3E

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:14 pm
by Havard
How many new types of weapons were seen for the first time in D&D history in 3E? How many of those weapons have later appeared in more recent editions?

Tim's 5E conversions of Freeport reminded me that the Gnome Hooked Hammer does not exist in 5E. How many of these weapons were unique to 3E and were never seen again?

Bolas
Dire Flail
Dwarven Urgrosh
Dwarven Waraxe
Gnome Hooked Hammer
Hand Crossbow
Kama
Net
Net of Snaring
Nunchaku
Orc Double Axe
Repeating Heavy Crossbow
Repeating Light Crossbow
Sai
Shuriken
Siangham
Spiked Chain
Two-Bladed Sword
Whip
Thunder Stones

-Havard

Re: Weapons Introduced in 3E

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:30 pm
by Big Mac
What's the meaning of the crossed out weapons? Are these ones where your research has found them in an earlier edition?

Re: Weapons Introduced in 3E

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:35 pm
by agathokles
I think so. The Whip and Bolas are found in the Rules Cyclopedia, the Hand Crossbow in AD&D (it's the Drow signature weapon). BTW, the Nunchaku are found is several sources before 3e, including the Savage Coast and DragonFist, IIRC. The Repeating Crossbow is found in AD&D, although I don't know if there was an Heavy version. Other oriental weapons might have been in AD&D sources, too, whereas I can't remember the 3e double weapons in earlier sources.

GP

Re: Weapons Introduced in 3E

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:28 pm
by Khedrac
You could add the Fullblade (3.0), but it is really an off-sized bastard sword iirc.

On the other hand, you can add the suglin (Frostburn) and the annulat (Palanr Handbook) which I believe is new to 3.5.
Not so sure for the whip-dagger (Arms and Equipment Guide?) but what about the foot-bow (Faces of the WIld)?

Re: Weapons Introduced in 3E

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:06 pm
by Boneguard
Havard wrote: Kama
Nunchaku
Repeating Light Crossbow
Sai
Shuriken
Siangham
All found in AD&D 1st edition Oriental Adventures and the 2nd Edition Complete Ninja handbook

Re: Weapons Introduced in 3E

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:19 pm
by Morfie
I've always thought that the Two-Bladed Sword was inspired by The Phantom Menace..

Re: Weapons Introduced in 3E

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:31 am
by pawsplay
The siangham, or siangkam, appeared in the original Oriental adventures. It appears to have been cribbed from the Palladium Book of Exotic Weapons. I do not think it is likely, given the source, it was entirely invented, but it does not appear to be a standard Kuntao weapon. My best guess, given that kiam means "sword" (the Chinese jian), is that it is either an obscure or forgotten weapon, or a misinterpretation of some kind of thrusting sword, as a estoc is to a rapier. Google suggests that siangham means "noon" and siangkam means "covert" in Indonesian, either of which are also plausible but unhelpful roots. Apart from its appearance in the Palladium book, and thence OA and GURPS, I have never been able to find any other reference to this weapon.

The double scimitar may be entirely unique to 3e; unquestionably, it is one of the most hilarious and impractical things I have ever seen.

Re: Weapons Introduced in 3E

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:06 am
by Boneguard
And, although not spiked, weighted chains were also jntroduced in Oriental Adventures