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Children of the Tiger

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:30 am
by nick_crenshaw82
Could I use the Children of the Tiger (From the Atruaghin Clans) for the Olmec? I plan on using the Maztica as the Aztecs in one my campaign worlds.

Re: Children of the Tiger

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:19 am
by Robin
of course why not?
It is your campaign.

Re: Children of the Tiger

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:13 am
by nick_crenshaw82
Robin wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:19 am
of course why not?
It is your campaign.
What I mean is is Olmec culture similar enough to Aztec to use the Children of the Tiger material or will I have to make alterations?

Re: Children of the Tiger

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:13 am
by Big Mac
nick_crenshaw82 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:13 am
What I mean is is Olmec culture similar enough to Aztec to use the Children of the Tiger material or will I have to make alterations?
What do you mean by "similar enough"?

Are you talking about Children of the Tiger and Mazticans being on similar power levels?

Or are you talking about Olmecs and Aztecs being on similar power levels?

Neither of the D&D products are in the Historical Reference series, so both would have taken some liberties with the truth, in order to create a fun spread of things for PCs to go up against.

How likely you are to need to alter things is going to partly be down to your personal taste.

Re: Children of the Tiger

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:17 am
by Cthulhudrew
Very little is known about Olmec culture, comparative to many other mesoamerican cultures (like the Aztec and Maya). Some of the broad strokes seem to be there- they are theorized to be the progenitors of the mesoamerican ballgame, for instance. I suspect you could use the Children of the Tiger material to represent the Olmecs without worrying too much if it's straying from the details.

Re: Children of the Tiger

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:28 pm
by nick_crenshaw82
Big Mac wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:13 am
nick_crenshaw82 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:13 am
What I mean is is Olmec culture similar enough to Aztec to use the Children of the Tiger material or will I have to make alterations?
What do you mean by "similar enough"?

Are you talking about Children of the Tiger and Mazticans being on similar power levels?

Or are you talking about Olmecs and Aztecs being on similar power levels?

Neither of the D&D products are in the Historical Reference series, so both would have taken some liberties with the truth, in order to create a fun spread of things for PCs to go up against.

How likely you are to need to alter things is going to partly be down to your personal taste.
Cthulhudrew wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:17 am
Very little is known about Olmec culture, comparative to many other mesoamerican cultures (like the Aztec and Maya). Some of the broad strokes seem to be there- they are theorized to be the progenitors of the mesoamerican ballgame, for instance. I suspect you could use the Children of the Tiger material to represent the Olmecs without worrying too much if it's straying from the details.
I completely forgot about the Mayans. They were who I meant, not the Olmec. Are the Mayan similar enough to the Aztec that I could use the information from the Children of the Tiger as the Mayan to the Maztica's Aztec?

Re: Children of the Tiger

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:12 pm
by agathokles
The Children of the Tiger are more Aztec-inspired. I'd use the Hollow World Oltecs instead.
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Re: Children of the Tiger

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:28 pm
by Robin
nick_crenshaw82 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:13 am
Robin wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:19 am
of course why not?
It is your campaign.
What I mean is is Olmec culture similar enough to Aztec to use the Children of the Tiger material or will I have to make alterations?
Ok. No pun intended..Yet, such a use always requires a lot of alterations. As Agathokles, Chtulhudrew, and Big Mac already suggested, these are different
It is like looking at the Tolteks, Azteks, Mayan, Inca's, Olmec, and Pizteks and not seeing the differences.
As such I would not go too deep into details, and mimic a culture with similarities of the Azcan (see HWR1 Sons of Azca) maybe with some overlap of the Children of the Tiger as per GAZ14 The Atruaghin Clans.
Keep in mind that the Children of the Tiger (or Olmecs) on the Outer World had a greatlly continuated socio-cultural evolution and pollution from other cultures than the Azcan in the HW are, and will have significant variations.