Digitalelf wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:20 am
It's a shame that this article did not come out (or was re-visited) during the 2nd edition era.
Why? it wouldn't matter much, 2e usually
kept the same home planes...or do you mean for specialty priest stats? If the latter, then yeah, that would be nice!
On home planes for the Roman pantheon...luckily Olympus is infinitely large. Various doppelgangers (similar god, but no longer really the same as the Greek version) can populate a different, far off, section.
The Hellenic/Greek pantheon is (mostly) on Olympus/Arborea, and their alignments aren't all lined up with CG(CN tendency)...although it's a good overall alignment fit. The same can apply with a LN Jupiter, Juno & Mars...CE Ares, N Hera, etc, are fine too.
I can point out another time changed pantheon, and a good one, too, all 2e style. The Anglo Saxon deities. In them, one sees the pre Norse, Norse pantheon (before, rather than after, case here)..DRAGON 263
. The author, Ian Malcolmson, placed them all on the PMP, perhaps worrying about "crowding", but really, he need not have. Still, Thunor, Tir & Woden in particular, are distinct & yet similar enough to match your Greek & Roman dilemma well.
ripvanwormer wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:50 am
My view is that gods aren't solids, they're liquids. The gods of the Roman pantheon (Jupiter, Juno, Mars, Minerva, Quirinus, etc.) were originally unrelated to their Greek equivalents, but with time they began to flow together, their identities blurring. A god can have radically different aspects—of different alignments, even—and may inhabit different realms on different planes because a god isn't a single, stable thing. They're beliefs and archetypes, which ebb and flow like water. So yes, chaotic evil Ares is the same god as lawful neutral Mars—and also not the same.
I know at least one Planescape fan gave the Roman pantheon a realm in Arcadia, as befits the more lawful neutral attitude of the Roman gods. They could have their own Mount Olympus there, a mirror of the one in Arborea.
A nice thought, but THAT does make for major changes, with Mt Olympus being such a major planar nexus of gate ways. I'm not sure it's a bad major change, though, if it is akin to a mirror image effect. Simpler to me to simply have them using the same existing set up, but it's an interesting idea!.
Another interesting thing...the many Non-Olympians (or late Helenic) deities & the various other pantheons touched on. Mithras of Persia (& the middle east & far beyond under Rome), Serapis, a Graeco-Egyptian deity is in D133. Isis wasn't mentioned, but she was huge in the imperial days...basically all powerful Isis mode (although she appears to have that kind of power, almost, to look at her game stats & sp priests already, despite always being placed in her more traditional, earlier, placement in power rankings). It's a good thing the planes are infinite!