What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

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What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Big Mac » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:16 pm

Since I joined The Piazza, I've learned about D&D campaign settings that I never played.

I've also learned about D&D campaign settings that I never knew existed before.

There are still some campaign settings that have not won a bespoke forum at The Piazza yet. And there are still some a few campaign settings that don't have a single topic yet.

What is the most obscure D&D campaign setting that you know of? Do you own any of the products for it? Does anyone ever talk to you about it?
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby snorri » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:51 pm

I own a few 80's settings published for AD&D (and played in at least one for a campaign, which ended in Mystara).

Among those released in English, I found b Abbernoth to be very good. It's available on Dragonsfoot's download. It has a Forgotten relms + Celtics feeling which I found interesting.
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby willpell » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:19 pm

What is this, Dungeons and Hipsters? "It's a really obscure campaign setting, I'm sure you've never heard of it." :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Morfie » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:22 am

If I told you, it wouldn't be obscure anymore..
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby timemrick » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:41 pm

This one is perhaps more singular than obscure...

Many gamers and fantasy fans have heard of the Thieves' World series, and Green Ronin's d20 adaptation (2005) briefly attracted quite a bit of notice, but it's likely that only very long-time gamers (like many of the good folks here) would have ever seen the first RPG adaptation of the setting, by Chaosium in 1981. That boxed set followed a model that I've never seen in any other RPG sourcebook (and which probably couldn't be replicated today): It provided characters stats for NINE different RPGs of its day, from AD&D to RQ to TFT (even Traveler!), with each system's chapter written by one of the luminaries of that system. It was something of an eccentric, chaotic mess, but the (systemless) guidebook to the city and the detailed maps were a fan's dream come true.
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Big Mac » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:59 pm

snorri wrote:I own a few 80's settings published for AD&D (and played in at least one for a campaign, which ended in Mystara).

Among those released in English, I found b Abbernoth to be very good. It's available on Dragonsfoot's download. It has a Forgotten relms + Celtics feeling which I found interesting.


RPG Geek say that Abbernoth is a Castles & Crusades campaign setting. I might start a topic in Other Worlds about it, some time, but I'm really looking for official Dungeons & Dragons campaign settings that I've not heard about.
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby ripvanwormer » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:39 am

What are you counting as a campaign setting? Does it have to have enough material to support an entire campaign, as opposed to just being the site of a single adventure? There was an earlier thread on D&D micro-settings that has some pretty obscure stuff.

In this thread I listed every D&D setting and world I knew about. Many of them are nothing more than names, though.

I would say Aelos, the setting of CM6 Where Chaos Reigns, probably counts as a campaign setting, barely, since there are a number of interconnected adventures set there and it's distinct from Mystara (though it works fine set in Mystara's distant past). The plane of Eloysia from M4 Five Coins for a Kingdom might also qualify.

Arda and the Lost World, from Ray Winninger's Dungeoncraft column in Dragon Magazine, are two settings that are pretty darned obscure. Arda was a world where illithids were created by the moon as a replacement for humanity and the Lost World was a world with dinosaur gods. The columns are archived here: http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/dnd/dungeoncraft/
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Big Mac » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:06 am

Morfie wrote:If I told you, it wouldn't be obscure anymore..


You could tell me...but then you would have to kill me. ;)
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Big Mac » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:09 am

timemrick wrote:This one is perhaps more singular than obscure...

Many gamers and fantasy fans have heard of the Thieves' World series, and Green Ronin's d20 adaptation (2005) briefly attracted quite a bit of notice, but it's likely that only very long-time gamers (like many of the good folks here) would have ever seen the first RPG adaptation of the setting, by Chaosium in 1981. That boxed set followed a model that I've never seen in any other RPG sourcebook (and which probably couldn't be replicated today): It provided characters stats for NINE different RPGs of its day, from AD&D to RQ to TFT (even Traveler!), with each system's chapter written by one of the luminaries of that system. It was something of an eccentric, chaotic mess, but the (systemless) guidebook to the city and the detailed maps were a fan's dream come true.


Wow! I never heard of that. Did they have TSR's permission? Did TSR react to Chaosium's AD&D version of Thieves' World?
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby timemrick » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:06 pm

Big Mac wrote:Wow! I never heard of that. Did they have TSR's permission? Did TSR react to Chaosium's AD&D version of Thieves' World?

Dave Arneson was one of the contributors, and the box cover includes the following text: "AD&D and D&D are trademarks owned and used by permission of TSR Hobbies, Inc." (This is followed by similar disclaimers for C&S, TFT, Traveller, and T&T.)

I no longer own a copy (I sold it when my interest in the TW series flagged), but you can see photos of the box cover and some of the contents here.
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Dragonhelm » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:37 pm

Three come to mind.

Pelinore - The world of Pelinore is flat. Everyone knows that! (See the Pelinore forum for details.)

Mahasarpa - Oriental Adventures in India, by James Wyatt.

Valoreign - Fantasy Arthurian feel and some wild magic. Setting is the UK turned upside down. By Chris Perkins. My favorite of these by far.
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Dread Delgath » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:32 pm

timemrick wrote:
Big Mac wrote:Wow! I never heard of that. Did they have TSR's permission? Did TSR react to Chaosium's AD&D version of Thieves' World?

Dave Arneson was one of the contributors, and the box cover includes the following text: "AD&D and D&D are trademarks owned and used by permission of TSR Hobbies, Inc." (This is followed by similar disclaimers for C&S, TFT, Traveller, and T&T.)

I no longer own a copy (I sold it when my interest in the TW series flagged), but you can see photos of the box cover and some of the contents here.


I bought a copy about 15 years ago for $20.00 in a FLGS used section, then gave it to a friend as a Christmas present, as he had a lot of interest in Thieves World, and I knew next to nothing about it at the time, and still know very little about it today, aside from the bits about it discussed here. ;)
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby timemrick » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:35 pm

Dread Delgath wrote:I bought a copy about 15 years ago for $20.00 in a FLGS used section, then gave it to a friend as a Christmas present, as he had a lot of interest in Thieves World, and I knew next to nothing about it at the time, and still know very little about it today, aside from the bits about it discussed here. ;)

I received my copy for free, along with a huge pile of other games, in late high school, when a friend of a friend was dumping a lot of his games before going into the military. (I never did learn whether there were other games he took with him, or if he was actual leaving the hobby. But I got them because he knew I was an active gamer and thus would appreciate them.) Except for the Basic & Expert rulebooks, most of it was stuff I'd never played--and in many cases, never heard of before, like the TW set. I think I got more use out of the Tunnels & Trolls rulebook than anything else in that pile, because he gifted me with several solo adventures as well, and I used it to explain/demo RPGs to a couple non-gamer friends.
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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Havard » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:19 am

Dread Delgath wrote:
timemrick wrote:
Big Mac wrote:Wow! I never heard of that. Did they have TSR's permission? Did TSR react to Chaosium's AD&D version of Thieves' World?

Dave Arneson was one of the contributors, and the box cover includes the following text: "AD&D and D&D are trademarks owned and used by permission of TSR Hobbies, Inc." (This is followed by similar disclaimers for C&S, TFT, Traveller, and T&T.)

I no longer own a copy (I sold it when my interest in the TW series flagged), but you can see photos of the box cover and some of the contents here.


I bought a copy about 15 years ago for $20.00 in a FLGS used section, then gave it to a friend as a Christmas present, as he had a lot of interest in Thieves World, and I knew next to nothing about it at the time, and still know very little about it today, aside from the bits about it discussed here. ;)


I have the Chaosium Boxed set. The main reason I got it was because of the section written by Dave Arneson which detailed a brothel in the city to be used as an adventure location. Dave Arneson also provided stats for various parts of the box for his Adventures in Fantasy RPG.

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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby agathokles » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:00 pm

Tianguo is the setting of DragonFist, an AD&D variant by Chris Pramas published in PDF form by WotC slightly before the release of 3e. Rights were reacquired by Pramas' Green Ronin, but a new edition of the setting (likely for a non-D&D rules set) never materialized.

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Re: What is the most obsure D&D campaign setting?

Postby Dread Delgath » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:08 am

agathokles wrote:Tianguo is the setting of DragonFist, an AD&D variant by Chris Pramas published in PDF form by WotC slightly before the release of 3e. Rights were reacquired by Pramas' Green Ronin, but a new edition of the setting (likely for a non-D&D rules set) never materialized.

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I completely forgot about Dragon Fist. It may be WotC, but it was created as a variant to AD&D rules. :cool:
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