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[Warfare] Dwarf Warfare: Is this a campaign setting?

Post by Big Mac » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:11 pm

Chris Pramas has just put out a new book about dwarves, called Dwarf Warfare.
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Here is the blurb from Amazon:
Amazon page for Dwarf Warfare wrote:Despite their short stature, Dwarves are amongst the toughest fighters of all the races. Thanks to their great strength and stamina, Dwarves march to battle in thick armor and carrying numerous heavy weapons. This book compiles all of the information known about these grim warriors and how they practice war. From an initial examination of the fighting methods of the individual Dwarf soldier, it expands to look at how they do battle in small companies and vast armies. It covers all of their troop types from their axe men that form the front lines of battle to their deadly accurate crossbowmen, and noting their specialist troops such as their famous siege-engineers. Also examined are their tactics in specific situations such as underground fighting and fighting in mountainous terrain. Finally, the book examines a few specific battles in great detail in order to fully demonstrate the Dwarven way of war.
But this book isn't being published by Green Ronin. It is being published by Osprey Adventures (part of Osprey Publishing). Osprey are better known for their books that give all sorts of background details that are useful for wargaming in historical periods, but this book about dwarves is definately a fantasy book. (And there is an earlier book, called Orc Warfare, and another book due later this year, called Elf Warfare that both have Chris Pramas as the author.)

The reviews of Dwarf Warfare imply that Chris Pramas included stories of great dwarven battles, and I would have thought that place names would need to be included in that sort of thing.

Does anyone know if these Warfare books have a campaign setting/world built into them? Does anyone know how many books are planned for this product line (which seems to be on a one-book-per-six-months schedule)?
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Re: [Warfare] Dwarf Warfare: Is this a campaign setting?

Post by Havard » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:07 am

I'd completely missed this product line!

However, I am a fan of Chris Pramas' other game design (primarily Freeport) so I am interested in seeing what this is going to be like.

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Re: [Warfare] Dwarf Warfare: Is this a campaign setting?

Post by ripvanwormer » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:17 am

I'm amused that some of the Amazon reviewers seem to have bought these under the impression that they were about Tolkien's Middle Earth. According to them, this turned out to not be the case.

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Re: [Warfare] Dwarf Warfare: Is this a campaign setting?

Post by Big Mac » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:49 am

Havard wrote:I'd completely missed this product line!
I am not sure that Ospray are aiming at tabletop roleplayers, but they did turn up to
Havard wrote:However, I am a fan of Chris Pramas' other game design (primarily Freeport) so I am interested in seeing what this is going to be like.
I wonder how well this will fit with his other campaign settings, like Freeport, Chainmail (Sundered Empire), Dragon Thingamy (the vaporware TSR setting that was based off of AD&D) or non-Chris Pramas settings. I guess you would need to have a war in the setting to get the most use out of this.
ripvanwormer wrote:I'm amused that some of the Amazon reviewers seem to have bought these under the impression that they were about Tolkien's Middle Earth. According to them, this turned out to not be the case.
I thought that was pretty funny too.
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Re: [Warfare] Dwarf Warfare: Is this a campaign setting?

Post by ripvanwormer » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:47 pm

I paged through Dwarf Warfare and Orc Warfare at a store in Ann Arbor, Michigan yesterday. They were both very, very generic, and could be used in any standard D&D-esque or Tolkienesque fantasy world, like Greyhawk, the World of Freeport, Forgotten Realms, or Mystara. There were some place names, but there was no real information on those places, so it'd be easy to replace them with place names from your existing campaign and difficult to make a new campaign from just those names.

One thing, though: the Orc Warfare book had goblins as a type of small orc, as Tolkien did. This isn't the case in modern D&D (early D&D was vague about how the various humanoid races were related). It's easy to ignore, though; most campaigns have goblins sometimes participating in orc battles regardless of whether or not they're the same species.

There's some information on dwarf and orc gods in their respective books, but the gods are referred to by their titles, not their names, so you could insert names from your own campaign's pantheons. They're not exactly the same as the standard D&D nonhuman pantheons: there's a major orc goddess of war, for example, and a dwarf god of magic (although Races of Stone had one of those, as does Dave Arneson's Blackmoor).

I didn't end up buying either book. They were interesting, but in the end they didn't really have enough new stuff compared to the resources I already have on those species. Your mileage may vary, but they were slender volumes and I already have so much.

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