Now Paizo have just announced something else called Starfinder on their blog. I don't see Loki's name mentioned on that one, so I don't think they have bought in the same product mentioned in the topic from 2015. Lets have a quick scan through their press release:
I guess that "Starfinder" is a fairly obvious name for a space version of Pathfinder.Paizo blog wrote:Announcing the Starfinder Roleplaying Game!
Saturday, May 28, 2016
Ever since Pathfinder Adventure Path #3, when James Jacobs and Wes Schneider had to hold me back from putting a space elevator in Varisia, I've wanted to take Pathfinder to the stars. A year later, I had the honor of writing up Golarion's solar system in Pathfinder Adventure Path #14, and then expanding it further in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Distant Worlds. But I'm not the only one around here in love with outer space and science fiction—I think all of us have at various times said, "Wouldn't it be fun to do a futuristic version of Pathfinder?" Yet aside from the occasional jaunt to other worlds in adventures like Pathfinder Adventure Path #70: The Frozen Stars, it's always been a dream just out of reach.
The "futuristic version of Pathfinder" thing, suggests that this isn't quite going to cater to the Spelljammer fanbase. Maybe it will cater more to the Dragonstar fanbase.
Key facts are:Paizo blog wrote:Next August, Paizo will be releasing the Starfinder Roleplaying Game—a new science fantasy RPG based on the Pathfinder universe and rules, but complete and standalone. It'll be backward compatible, so you can still use all those Pathfinder RPG bestiaries, but will feature all sorts of new classes, races, equipment, and other elements uniquely suited to our far-future setting. You want to play a lashunta technomancer using magic to hack the defense grid, or an android assassin with a laser rifle, or a ysoki ratfolk mechanic clambering around the guts of a spaceship as you blast your way through the enemy blockade? This is the place for it. There will also be new races you've never seen before, new worlds beyond Golarion's system that we've never visited, new twists on magic and the rules system itself—and, of course, ton and tons of cool science fantasy gear, from starships and computers to infinitely sharp zero-edge swords and rune-augmented plasma cannons.
- You don't need Pathfinder to play Starfinder,
- You can use Pathfinder monsters in Starfinder,
- Starfinder will add new worlds, outside the Pathfinder solar system
So it's Pathfinder Future...but with the Pathfinder planet taken away. That sounds a bit like what you have in Krynnspace after Takhisis steals the world. I'm not sure why they did that, but it does mean that all the Pathfinder maps are going to be of no use to a Starfinder GM, because they can't land on Golarion and explore updated places.Paizo blog wrote:The Starfinder RPG Core Rulebook will be releasing at Gen Con 2017, but that's not all-we're also going to be starting a monthly Starfinder Adventure Path in addition to our ongoing Pathfinder Adventure Paths. The Starfinder AP volumes will include both adventures and cool new rules and setting information to help expand your Starfinder game. Plus monsters. Lots of monsters.
So how does all this science fantasy goodness fit into the Pathfinder setting? Simple: Starfinder is set in Golarion's solar system, but far in a possible future-one in which the gods have mysteriously spirited Golarion away to an unknown location, and refuse to answer questions about it. In its place, the cultures of that world have evolved and spread throughout the solar system, especially to a vast space platform called Absalom Station. Gifted access to a hyperspace dimension by an ascended AI deity, the residents of the system suddenly find themselves with the ability to travel faster than light, and the race is on to explore and colonize potentially millions of worlds. But there are horrors out there in the darkness...
The FTL travel is a different (science fiction) solution to the problem that Jeff Grubb solved with magic. That suggests that Starfinder material is going to need some level of rebooting to be used by Spelljammer or Space 1889 fans. I'm not familiar enough with Dragonstar to guess how compatible the two games might be.
If they are releasing this under the OGL, it might facilitate some sort of retro-clone attempts by the OSR folks.Paizo blog wrote:As the Creative Director of Starfinder, I can't wait to show you everything we've been building. Joining me as key players on Team Starfinder are longtime Paizo developers Rob McCreary and Owen KC Stephens, as well as Creative Design Director Sarah Robinson on the art side, but all the designers, developers, art staff, and editors are working on different parts of the project-it's an all-hands-on-deck affair. And it's not just us, either-as Starfinder will be released under the OGL, we're looking forward to robust third-party support of the game.
I'll be interested to see if the Starfinder OGC spins off as many retro-clones as WotC's SRD did. I suspect there will be less retro-clones, but I might be wrong. Perhaps the focus on this being futuristic, but Pathfinder compatible will appeal to people who have played things like Alternity, but who want to have new rules they can publish.
No public playtest!Paizo blog wrote:While the size and scope of the new game make a full public playtest infeasible, we'll be starting to bring in key community members to check it out in the next few months, so keep an eye on the blog for your chance to participate! In the meantime, we wanted to give you a sneak preview of some preliminary concept sketches for Absalom Station, androids, and ysoki from artist Taylor Fischer (who you might know from games like XCOM and Civilization)-while these are only our initial explorations, and far from final, it's fun to see the process as things change and evolve. And it's never too early to chime in and chat with us in the new Starfinder forum!
We have had public playtests for Pathfinder (while WotC created 4th Edition privately) and then we have had WotC do a public playtest for D&D Next/5th Edition. There is obviously some sort of cost vs benefit equation to public playtests that Paizo considered before deciding to drop out of the public playtest market.
The "key community members" thing might mean that they can invite in people that they found "useful" during the Pathfinder public playtest, while excluding anyone who created a lot of "noise" without actually suggesting anything positive.
However, they do have an open forum for Starfinder. (I wonder if The Piazza will ever get a Starfinder forum.) I'm guessing not, at least the moment, as there has not yet been enough interest in Golarion to create enough critical mass to split the Pathfinder forum here into a "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game" forum and a "Pathfinder Campaign Setting" forum. (And we have had one Pathfinder forum here for quite a long time now.) But I might be pleasantly surprised. I do like Paizo, as a company, even if I don't like all of their products enough to buy them, so it would be nice to see more of their products discussed at The Piazza.
With that sign off, it's a shame the Creative Director's first name was not "Dan". It's a shame that his middle name was not "Dan". It's a shame that his surname was not "Dan-Dandandandandan-Dan-Dan".Paizo blog wrote:We hope you're as excited about Starfinder as we are, and that you'll join us as we boldly go where Paizo's never gone before!
James L. Sutter
There is some more information on the Starfinder webpage:
Maybe this will work for people who are looking for things like "Blackmoorian technology" to add to a 3.5 Blackmoor game.Starfinder webpage wrote:Take your favorite fantasy RPG to the stars! Set thousands of years in Pathfinder's future, Starfinder is a stand-alone roleplaying game evolved from the Pathfinder rules and designed to bring you a whole new universe of science fantasy adventures. Play alien races both new and familiar as you explore the mysteries of a weird galaxy. Will you be an android assassin fulfilling corporate contracts, or a plucky ratfolk mechanic? A spellhacking lashunta technomancer, or a rakish human pilot? Uncountable worlds are waiting for you and your intrepid crew!
The Starfinder line will include both a hardcover core rulebook and key hardcover rules supplements, as well as a monthly Starfinder Adventure Path that provides you with epic campaigns, expanded rules elements, and new monsters to battle. Best of all, Starfinder is designed to integrate easily with the Pathfinder roleplaying game, meaning your power-armored marine can still go toe to toe with orcs and dragons. So what are you waiting for? The galaxy needs you!
It will be nice to see what happens next year.