Gladiator: Paladins to 18, then Fighters after?

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Gladiator: Paladins to 18, then Fighters after?

Postby Lord Torath » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:11 am

The Dark Sun Rulebook says that Gladiators advance as Paladin/Rangers, implying they use the Paladin/Ranger XP charts. But Dragon Kings says that Gladiators gain one level for every 250,000 xp after 3,000,000 (which they hit at level 18 as a Gladiator), while Rangers still need 300,000 xp to level up (from 3,600,000, which is level 20). Did they ever issue a clarification? If not, I'm going to assume the rulebook is correct, and Dragon Kings is in error (even though Dragon Kings goes into more detail, and came later)
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Re: Gladiator: Paladins to 18, then Fighters after?

Postby Big Mac » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:34 pm

Did you check CGR2 Complete Gladiator's Handbook to see if it had anything that clarified the situation?
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Re: Gladiator: Paladins to 18, then Fighters after?

Postby Lord Torath » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:54 am

Finally got around to checking on this. The Complete Gladiators book doesn't list XP at all.
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Re: Gladiator: Paladins to 18, then Fighters after?

Postby Morfie » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:19 am

Dark Sun Rulebook 1991 and the Revised Version in 1995 are both the same.
Dragon Kings was 1992.
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Re: Gladiator: Paladins to 18, then Fighters after?

Postby Big Mac » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:13 pm

Lord Torath wrote:The Dark Sun Rulebook says that Gladiators advance as Paladin/Rangers, implying they use the Paladin/Ranger XP charts. But Dragon Kings says that Gladiators gain one level for every 250,000 xp after 3,000,000 (which they hit at level 18 as a Gladiator), while Rangers still need 300,000 xp to level up (from 3,600,000, which is level 20). Did they ever issue a clarification? If not, I'm going to assume the rulebook is correct, and Dragon Kings is in error (even though Dragon Kings goes into more detail, and came later)


Looking at your original post again, it looks like like Dragon Kings is saying that Gladiators start to advance faster after 18th level. I'm not exactly sure, as I don't have the books in front of me, but I don't see that they would say what they said, without a reason. It must mean something.

Perhaps you could type in the appropriate quote, and we could logic it out. :)
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Re: Gladiator: Paladins to 18, then Fighters after?

Postby Lord Torath » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:38 am

Okay, sure. Why not?
Dark Sun Rulebook p24 wrote:They <gladiators> advance as Paladin/Rangers.
Per the Player's Handbook, Paladin/Rangers hit level 18 at 3,000,0000 xp,which is where Fighters hit level 20.
Dragon Kings p14 wrote:Only human, dwarf, half-elf, and mul gladiators may advance beyond 20th level. Gladiators gain an additional level for every 250,000 experience points above 3,000,000. They gain 3 hp at each level above 20.
Just a bit farther down the page:
Dragon Kings p14 wrote:Only human characters can advance beyond 20th level as a ranger. Rangers gain an additional level for every 300,000 experience points above 3,600,000.
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Re: Gladiator: Paladins to 18, then Fighters after?

Postby Boneguard » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:43 am

I do believe I found your answer in "Sage advice" of Dragon Magazine #189 (which focus on the Dragon Kings hard cover)

In DRAGON issue 178, you said gladiators use the paladin/ranger advancement table, but page 14 of Dragon Kings says gladiators reach 20th level when they earn 3,000,000 xp, and that’s what fighters need for 20th level.

Gladiators do use the paladin/ranger table. The figure in Dragon Kings should be 3,600,000. This is official and came straight from Tim Brown, Dragon Kings author and director of product research and development at TSR, Inc
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