Arcane Age minus Forgotten Realms

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Re: Arcane Age minus Forgotten Realms

Postby ripvanwormer » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:35 pm

night_druid wrote:* Somehow, the Nubari felt responsible for the invasion, because it mentions not repeating the mistakes of the past.


My impression was that the mistake wasn't the invasion, but their reaction to it. The Nubari faction that settled Malatra was a pacifist faction who believed that gearing up for war meant the end of their utopia; rather than fight they fled the war and vowed that they would never again become a militaristic people.

How a civilization of "pacifists" managed to keep slaves is another question.
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Re: Arcane Age minus Forgotten Realms

Postby night_druid » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:47 pm

ripvanwormer wrote:
night_druid wrote:* Somehow, the Nubari felt responsible for the invasion, because it mentions not repeating the mistakes of the past.


My impression was that the mistake wasn't the invasion, but their reaction to it. The Nubari faction that settled Malatra was a pacifist faction who believed that gearing up for war meant the end of their utopia; rather than fight they fled the war and vowed that they would never again become a militaristic people.

How a civilization of "pacifists" managed to keep slaves is another question.


Its also entirely possible they might have provoked the invasion, or otherwise set into motion the events that lead to the invasion. Perhaps, if you tie it to the Lotus Crusade, they might have actually tried to use the Kreen as their army or a weapon to fight their enemies, and the situation ended up exploding in their face. Perhaps they wanted to use the Kreen to weaken and conquer several worlds, and then the Nubari could "ride to the rescue" and defeat the dastardly Kreen (maybe not militarily; perhaps they had a copy of that codex that pacified the Crusade, but for whatever reason lost it before they could use it to pacify the Kreen), and thus take advantage of the situation. Unfortunately, their plans went off the rails, and next thing they know, the Kreen show up on their doorstep. Or perhaps the Kreen displaced other cultures, who in turn attacked the Nubari. Or even merc armies hired by the Nubari turned on them for whatever reason. Or a combination of the above.
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Re: Arcane Age minus Forgotten Realms

Postby Big Mac » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:08 am

ripvanwormer wrote:
night_druid wrote:* Somehow, the Nubari felt responsible for the invasion, because it mentions not repeating the mistakes of the past.


My impression was that the mistake wasn't the invasion, but their reaction to it. The Nubari faction that settled Malatra was a pacifist faction who believed that gearing up for war meant the end of their utopia; rather than fight they fled the war and vowed that they would never again become a militaristic people.

How a civilization of "pacifists" managed to keep slaves is another question.


Some creatures seem to have some strange ethics towards other creatures. Perhaps the Nubari faction had a pacifist attitude to its own race, but was more accepting of violence or control of other races. Something like that might allow them to keep slaves.
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