Tula City of Mages

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Tula City of Mages

Postby Havard » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:15 am

“The legendary City of Mages, splendorous city of spiraling towers, gleaming lanterns, and mystical waterfalls. Here magical beasts roam freely alongside powerful wizards and steel-eyed soldiers. By night or day, the eight schools of magic loom over the city with their massive walls and towers, inspiring all who view them with awe. The wizards of Tula are the foremost specialists in magic, dividing themselves into various specialist schools. The Council of the Eight – composed of the heads of the various schools of magic – is housed in another mammoth structure along with a museum and a world-renowned library. Their decisions are often made after weeks of political maneuvering, all done in an amicable way. Apprentices from lands both near and far come to Tula to learn the magical arts. Tula is the only known location where characters can study to be specialist mages. It is also the home of the highest level mages in the Wilderlands (aside from the ice, air and water mages of Valon, and the Green Emperor himself).

“Because so many of the occupants of the city are apprentices or visiting mages, every type of human and humanoid is represented in the population. Many lizardmen and other exotic races — including monstrous races and outsiders — live here as well. Political power is based upon expertise in magic, not gender or race.”


Just came across this interesting blog article debating what a Tula book may have been like:

http://in-the-cities.com/2012/03/05/the ... ges-guild/

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Re: Tula City of Mages

Postby Sir Wulf » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:10 pm

This discussion leads me to wonder about the laws and customs of Tula. Such a society might have more in common with science fiction than medieval fantasy. I picture elements drawn from the 1001 Arabian Nights, Clark Ashton Smith's fantasies of Poseidonis and the realms of Maal Dweb, and Jack Vance's fantasies, adorned with brilliant gem tones and art nouveau arabeques.

The legendary City of Mages, splendorous city of spiraling towers, gleaming lanterns, and mystical waterfalls.

The city's mages apparently display their power in displays of might and pageantry, using their abilities to create splendid architecture and ongoing magical effects.

Their decisions are often made after weeks of political maneuvering, all done in an amicable way. Apprentices from lands both near and far come to Tula to learn the magical arts. Tula is the only known location where characters can study to be specialist mages.

Do the wizards of Tula sometimes duel with each other, or is such combat forbidden? How do they ensure their political maneuvering remains "amicable"?

Also, how selective are these scholars when sharing their secrets? Are their students bound to loyalty with mystical ties? How do they keep other groups from stealing their magical secrets? How independent are the "lesser lights" of their magical city?
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Re: Tula City of Mages

Postby galliard » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:23 pm

I wonder if the Judges Guild archives contain a keyed map of some kind. Page 17 of Pegasus #8 apparently tells us that a Tula project did exist at some point, as your blog link point out... but it never progressed beyond vaporware.
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Re: Tula City of Mages

Postby Big Mac » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:46 am

galliard wrote:I wonder if the Judges Guild archives contain a keyed map of some kind. Page 17 of Pegasus #8 apparently tells us that a Tula project did exist at some point, as your blog link point out... but it never progressed beyond vaporware.


I brought Tula City of Mages up at the Wilderlands Fans group on Facebook and Robert Bledsaw III (rbledsaw3 at The Piazza) was kind enough to reply:

Robert Bledsaw III at the Wilderlands Fans group wrote:
David Shepheard at the Wilderlands Fans group wrote:Håvard started a conversation about Tula City of Mages over at the Wilderlands forum at The Piazza:
http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=9543

I never heard of this before. How close did this "vapourware" product come to being published? Is it just a bunch of concept notes, or were things like maps and art created for it?


There were a few concept notes and conversations my grandpa had with people about his vision for Tula. It's something were going to be doing down the road.


So I'm not sure on the keyed map (that might be unlikely) but Robert Bledsaw I may have gone into more detail than the notes themselves with the people he was working with at Judges Guild.

The most interesting thing is that this is in the queue to get made! I'm not sure how many other things are in the queue.

But if you look at what happened with Original Caverns of Thracia, it seems that Robert III has the job of getting the entire Judges Guild product line cleaned up and put back on sale at DriveThru RPG. I'm pretty new to Wildlerlands, but maybe some people that understand the product line will know how big a queue Tula City of Mages might be at the end of.

At least there is no Necromancer Games canon that Judges Guild would be wanting to avoid. I think the entire process would be moving forward, rather than back. I'm not sure if there will be a Kickstarter, but there might be. Time will tell. :)
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Re: Tula City of Mages

Postby Baron » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:50 am

Let's hope Tula doesn't come after "cleaning up the entire line." That job could take years!
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Re: Tula City of Mages

Postby Big Mac » Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:20 pm

Baron wrote:Let's hope Tula doesn't come after "cleaning up the entire line." That job could take years!


It looks like Chris Bernhardt (chrisbernhardt on The Piazza), who did City-State of the Sea Kings has been chosen to put the "Tula, City-State of the Mages" product together. So maybe this will not be at the end of that queue I thought it might be in. :cool:

Chris said, that the new map project had priority at the moment.
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Re: Tula City of Mages

Postby ZardokhasSpoken » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:52 pm

I am always happy to hear a new Wilderlands product may be in the works, but I will be reluctant to purchase another Bernhardt book. I was very excited when CSSK came out, then disappointed when I received it. It is bloated, unwieldy, and almost unusable IMO. Oh how I long for the old style aids - all substance and no fluff. IMO CSSK could have easily been trimmed in half. Hopefully some serious editing will go into any future product. Oh bother! Regardless of its usefulness or size, I am sure I will buy it!
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Re: Tula City of Mages

Postby Big Mac » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:22 am

ZardokhasSpoken wrote:I am always happy to hear a new Wilderlands product may be in the works, but I will be reluctant to purchase another Bernhardt book. I was very excited when CSSK came out, then disappointed when I received it. It is bloated, unwieldy, and almost unusable IMO. Oh how I long for the old style aids - all substance and no fluff. IMO CSSK could have easily been trimmed in half. Hopefully some serious editing will go into any future product. Oh bother! Regardless of its usefulness or size, I am sure I will buy it!


According to RPG Geek's article for Chris Bernhardt, he wrote (or co-wrote) two Wilderlands products for Necromancer Games (plus several other non-Wilderlands products). Was City State of the Sea Kings funded by Kickstarter? If it was, was there a stretch goal to add more pages? If those two things are true, it could be that those circumstances forced the editor to make the product bigger, because the page count was already a done deal.

I've still not managed to get into the Wilderlands yet. (I am a 3e player and the eBay bandits have a stranglehold on the second-hand market for Necromancer Games core 3e products.) However, if/when I manage to get those, or if/when Judges Guild publishes Pathfinder RPG replacements, I would be interested in both Tula, City-State of the Mages and the earlier City-State of the Sea Kings.

By the way, I forgot to say "welcome to The Piazza" in my reply to your other post. :oops: There is an "Introduce yourself here" thread over in The Philosopher's Stone (the area for new people) and you might want to post a bit about yourself and/or the stuff you like there. :)
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