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Ranks?

Postby Angel Tarragon » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:16 pm

How does the rank system work? What levels indicate which rank you are?

For example, what levels would you have fall into to be a Journeyman?
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Re: Ranks?

Postby timemrick » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:59 pm

I assume that you're asking about the apprentice/journeyman/master rankings in the systemless Freeport books (Pirate's Guide, Cults, and Buccaneers)? The specific levels depend on what system you're using, so you'll need to check the Denizens chapter of the Freeport Companion for the system you're using.

The True20 and d20 [3rd Era] Freeport Companions list them as follows: apprentice levels 1-5, journeyman levels 6-10, master level 11+.

The 4E Freeport Companion doesn't appear to provide any such guidelines. The same levels will probably work just as well there, or if you want to be more precise, find a conversion guide to compare 4E's 30-level cap to 3E's 20 levels.

I also own the Fate Freeport Companion, which doesn't give any guidelines for interpreting those ranks, either, but that's because Fate doesn't use levels. You'll have to look at the power levels of the "apprentice" and "journeyman" Common NPCs, and work from there.

(I own the Savage Worlds and Castles & Crusades companions in PDF, but don't play either system, so have not read them and don't know if they gives rank guidelines.)

The most recent book, Freeport: The City of Adventure for Pathfinder, gives a precise class and level for every NPC, so the only mention of apprentice vs. journeyman there is in the Common NPCs' stat blocks.
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Re: Ranks?

Postby Angel Tarragon » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:01 am

Thanks, Tim! That is exactly the information I was hoping for. :)
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Re: Ranks?

Postby Big Mac » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:49 pm

What do ranks do? Do they tie into skills or anything?
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Re: Ranks?

Postby timemrick » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:32 pm

Big Mac wrote:What do ranks do? Do they tie into skills or anything?

The apprentice/journeyman/master descriptors are just a form of shorthand for the systemless books to give a sense of how powerful a given NPC is. They aren't "ranks," as such, and don't tie directly into skills.

For example, in the entry for Gitch (Pirate's Guide, page 86), the notation "(male goblin journeyman)" appears after Gitch's name in the main text. This tells you his sex and race, and that he's a mid-level character (6th-10th level in d20 or True20). The d20 Freeport Companion gives a stat block for him as a 6th-level [non-specialist] wizard (page 104) ; the True20 book makes him a 6th-level Adept (page 89).

For an NPC who is not given a stat block in in your system of choice's Companion, choose a character level in the appropriate range and pick an appropriate class (or classes). For another d20 example, Samarka Joliet (Pirate's Guide, page 164) is a male elf journeyman, and the text refers to him as a wizard. He works at the Vault, so abjuration seems like the most appropriate school of specialization. Pick a level (6th-10th), and build him appropriately.
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Re: Ranks?

Postby Big Mac » Mon May 01, 2017 8:06 pm

timemrick wrote:
Big Mac wrote:What do ranks do? Do they tie into skills or anything?

The apprentice/journeyman/master descriptors are just a form of shorthand for the systemless books to give a sense of how powerful a given NPC is. They aren't "ranks," as such, and don't tie directly into skills.

For example, in the entry for Gitch (Pirate's Guide, page 86), the notation "(male goblin journeyman)" appears after Gitch's name in the main text. This tells you his sex and race, and that he's a mid-level character (6th-10th level in d20 or True20). The d20 Freeport Companion gives a stat block for him as a 6th-level [non-specialist] wizard (page 104) ; the True20 book makes him a 6th-level Adept (page 89).

For an NPC who is not given a stat block in in your system of choice's Companion, choose a character level in the appropriate range and pick an appropriate class (or classes). For another d20 example, Samarka Joliet (Pirate's Guide, page 164) is a male elf journeyman, and the text refers to him as a wizard. He works at the Vault, so abjuration seems like the most appropriate school of specialization. Pick a level (6th-10th), and build him appropriately.


Thanks Tim.

That also sounds like it would work as an in-character idea of how powerful a PC/NPC is (without resorting to discussing actual game mechanics).
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Re: Ranks?

Postby Angel Tarragon » Tue May 02, 2017 11:29 pm

Big Mac wrote:Thanks Tim.

That also sounds like it would work as an in-character idea of how powerful a PC/NPC is (without resorting to discussing actual game mechanics).
That was my thought when I was looking in one of my Freeport books. I was seeing Journeyman a lot and wanted to know the significance of it and how it was applied, which is why I asked.
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