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Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Tim Baker » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:01 pm

Is anyone familiar with the Kaladesh setting for Magic: The Gathering? If so, do you think the Plane Shift: Kaladesh sourcebook for 5th Edition D&D will offer any useful tidbits for a 5e Al-Qadim campaign?

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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby ripvanwormer » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:08 pm

Al-Qadim is Arabic fantasy, while it's my understanding that Kaladesh is (very) loosely based on India. The name is probably meant to evoke Bangladesh.

James Wyatt wrote the Mahasarpa campaign for Oriental Adventures, so perhaps some of that product's southeast Asian influences will shine through.
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby thorr-kan » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:10 pm

Not familiar with it. I'll be interested in seeing this discussion.
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Tim Baker » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:35 am

ripvanwormer wrote:Al-Qadim is Arabic fantasy, while it's my understanding that Kaladesh is (very) loosely based on India. The name is probably meant to evoke Bangladesh.

James Wyatt wrote the Mahasarpa campaign for Oriental Adventures, so perhaps some of that product's southeast Asian influences will shine through.

Thanks for clarifying that. I admit, my guess was based purely on the background in the post's image. The dome shaped tops to the buildings reminded me of the styling in Al-Qadim.
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Big Mac » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:26 am

ripvanwormer wrote:Al-Qadim is Arabic fantasy, while it's my understanding that Kaladesh is (very) loosely based on India. The name is probably meant to evoke Bangladesh.


There is a Kaladesh article on MTG Salvation Wiki that gives some information about the setting. And WotC have a Story page at the Kaladesh website that seems to have in-character information on it.

ripvanwormer wrote:James Wyatt wrote the Mahasarpa campaign for Oriental Adventures, so perhaps some of that product's southeast Asian influences will shine through.


I didn't notice anything at first glance. But I'm not a Mahasarpa expert. It is possible that someone else will spot something I missed.

(I wonder if James Wyatt will ever do a 5e Mahasarpa update. :) )
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Big Mac » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:28 am

Tim Baker wrote:
ripvanwormer wrote:Al-Qadim is Arabic fantasy, while it's my understanding that Kaladesh is (very) loosely based on India. The name is probably meant to evoke Bangladesh.

James Wyatt wrote the Mahasarpa campaign for Oriental Adventures, so perhaps some of that product's southeast Asian influences will shine through.

Thanks for clarifying that. I admit, my guess was based purely on the background in the post's image. The dome shaped tops to the buildings reminded me of the styling in Al-Qadim.


Maybe it could work for a "beyond the Yak Men" culture. :?
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Havard » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:51 am

Huh,
I had no idea this was coming. So WotC is suddenly open to the idea of combining D&D and MtG? :)

I don't know anything about Kaladesh, but now I am intrigued!

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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Tim Baker » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:03 am

Havard wrote:I had no idea this was coming. So WotC is suddenly open to the idea of combining D&D and MtG? :)

They've released two such crossover supplements, already. Plane shift: Zendikar and Innistrad.
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Angelika Tatsu » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:50 pm

Tim Baker wrote:
Havard wrote:I had no idea this was coming. So WotC is suddenly open to the idea of combining D&D and MtG? :)

They've released two such crossover supplements, already. Plane shift: Zendikar and Innistrad.

I knew of the Innistrad one, but not Zendikar. The fact that a third one is on the way gets me curious...what if WotC compiles all the MtG worlds and produces a hardback? This could be the beginning of a new Planescape setting.
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Angelika Tatsu » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:31 pm

Plane Shift: Kaladesh is now available for download!

http://media.wizards.com/2017/downloads ... ladesh.pdf
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Tim Baker » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:38 am

Angelika Tatsu wrote:Plane Shift: Kaladesh is now available for download!

http://media.wizards.com/2017/downloads ... ladesh.pdf

Thanks for sharing the link!
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby Isuru » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:21 am

Soooo much art.

Hate to think it, but if D&D ever becomes a truly vestigial aspect of WotC's portfolio (as in solely an afterthought moniker used to support other brands), there are worst things that riding on the coat-tails of Magic: The Gathering.
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby willpell » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:08 pm

Augh, I'm torn. I finally kicked my MTG habit, and I don't want to risk a relapse. But Kaladesh was practically designed to make me drool, and the idea of getting to see it *solely* from a non-card-game perspective does tempt me.
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Re: Plane Shift: Kaladesh and Al-Qadim

Postby ripvanwormer » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:47 am

Big Mac wrote:Maybe it could work for a "beyond the Yak Men" culture. :?


The Kuong Kingdom in Kara-Tur is supposed to worship the Indian pantheon, for what it's worth. Their gods, who they call the Lords of Creation, are said to be "adopted from a southwestern culture beyond the bounds of Kara-Tur" according to the Kara Tur: The Eastern Realms boxed set.

Durpar in the Shining South has a somewhat Hindu-inspired religion, though probably not the same faith as that practiced by the Kuong Kingdom. If it was the same faith as Durpar, though, that might help make the Kuong Kingdom feel like a more integrated part of Toril than dropping the real-world Indian pantheon into it would.

I don't think the "southwestern culture" mentioned in Kara Tur: the Eastern Realms ever got a canon name, though here's a previous thread on the "India" of the Forgotten Realms, focusing on Markus Taylor's fanon details. He called the area Jambu Dweepam.
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