4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

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4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by darkbard » Sun May 27, 2018 3:33 pm

Famously, the Raven Queen (pre-5E retconning) is the goddess of death, fate, and winter. Should a Warlock choose the Raven Queen as his patron and be of the Vestige Pact variety, how might one fluff/account for vestiges as a source of power: "the remnants of powerful forces and entities that once exercised great authority or demonstrated awful capabilities"?

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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Tim Baker » Sun May 27, 2018 10:34 pm

I think the Vestige Pact plays nicely into the Raven Queen's command over the death domain. Powerful entities' souls are in the Shadowfell, and by creating a pact with the Raven Queen, the warlock is granted aid by these entities. Whether they're willing or not could depend on how dark a tone you're looking for. The Raven Queen may force the vestiges to lend their power those who have a pact with her, or perhaps she acts as a "matchmaker," granting the vestiges access to warlocks who have a similar outlook/goal.
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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Zeromaru X » Sun May 27, 2018 11:37 pm

There is a servant of the Raven Queen known as the Bleak Guide, that can command the power of deceased souls temporarily and give it to a vestige pact warlock. It's like Tim said, but the one who grants the vestiges is this Bleak Guide guy and not the Raven Queen directly.

You can check more about this in the article "Performing the Pact", in Dragon 381. The article also has information useful for other pacts, as well.

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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Tim Baker » Mon May 28, 2018 12:27 am

Zeromaru X wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 11:37 pm
There is a servant of the Raven Queen known as the Bleak Guide, that can command the power of deceased souls temporarily and give it to a vestige pact warlock. It's like Tim said, but the one who grants the vestiges is this Bleak Guide guy and not the Raven Queen directly.

You can check more about this in the article "Performing the Pact", in Dragon 381. The article also has information useful for other pacts, as well.
I had no idea. I was just responding off the top of my head. I'm going to have to check that article out!
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Post by Tim Baker » Mon May 28, 2018 12:41 am

Zeromaru X wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 11:37 pm
You can check more about this in the article "Performing the Pact", in Dragon 381.
The article mentions a "companion article" called "Sealing the Pact." I didn't see it in the issue, nor in that month's issue of Dungeon. Do you know where "Sealing the Pact" can be located?
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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Zeromaru X » Mon May 28, 2018 1:46 am

Sealing the Pact is published in Dungeon 174

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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Tim Baker » Mon May 28, 2018 1:49 am

Zeromaru X wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:46 am
Sealing the Pact is published in Dungeon 174
Thanks! How did you find it so quickly?
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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by darkbard » Mon May 28, 2018 2:14 am

Cool and the gang! Thanks for the feedback, lads. This is quite helpful in drawing the distinction between the remnants of dead souls and the undead.

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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by JoeNotCharles » Mon May 28, 2018 2:45 am

Another option: the Raven Queen stole all those portfolios from other gods (most now dead): the former God of Death was Nerull, and she became a god by overthrowing him. Then she stole Fate from Lolth by backed Corellon in his war against her, and killed Khala, the former goddess of winter.

So a Vestige pact warlock could be getting power from the former gods, instead of direct from the Raven Queen.

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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Zeromaru X » Mon May 28, 2018 5:57 am

Tim Baker wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:49 am
Zeromaru X wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:46 am
Sealing the Pact is published in Dungeon 174
Thanks! How did you find it so quickly?
I have an index of all those articles in my pc, :P

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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Tim Baker » Tue May 29, 2018 1:08 am

Zeromaru X wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 5:57 am
I have an index of all those articles in my pc, :P
Is that something you'd mind sharing?
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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Zeromaru X » Thu May 31, 2018 7:35 pm

Tim Baker wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:08 am
Zeromaru X wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 5:57 am
I have an index of all those articles in my pc, :P
Is that something you'd mind sharing?
Here you go:

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15113&p=171072&sid ... 90#p171072

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Re: 4E Raven Queen and Vestige Warlock

Post by Tim Baker » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:20 am

Zeromaru X wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 7:35 pm
Here you go:

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15113&p=171072&sid ... 90#p171072
Perfect! I'm bookmarking this.
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