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EN World are currently running a survey called Which non-Realmsian setting for you?:
Morrus at EN World wrote:So Chris Perkins may or may not be working on a non-FR based product for 2016. Let's assume for now that he is. Which of WotC's many varied and wonderful settings do you think they should delve into next? Gothic horror? High fantasy? Giant space hamsters? The planes?

BTW, based on Mearls' talk of psionics recently, I reckon it's Dark Sun. But that's just a W-A-G
So far, Greyhawk is in the lead, with 199 votes, vs 127 for Planescape, 121 for Eberron and 100 for Dark Sun. Here are the full results:

Birthright|61|10.87% Blackmoor|22|3.92% Council of Wyrms|15|2.67% Dark Sun|100|17.83% Dragon Fist|1|0.18% Dragonlance|85|15.15% Eberron|121|21.57% Ghostwalk|9|1.60% Greyhawk|199|35.47% Jakandor|2|0.36% Kingdoms of Kalamar|19|3.39% Lankhmar|24|4.28% Mahasarpa|2|0.36% Mystara|61|10.87% Nentir Vale|27|4.81% Pelinore|5|0.89% Planescape|127|22.64% Ravenloft|90|16.04% Rokugan|18|3.21% Spelljammer|60|10.70% Thunder Rift|5|0.89% Warcraft|16|2.85% Wilderlands of High Fantasy|23|4.10%


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Greyhawk and Mystara will be apart of 5e whether or not WOTC publishes any material for them. Self publishing on the interwebs is in control, if they want some profits, they can jump to the front of the line but my guess is Eberron then Greyhawk before they go to the niche settings.
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Big Mac wrote:I'm not sure that DragonFist actually belongs to WotC. I know that Kingdoms of Kalamar, Rokugan, Warcraft and Wilderlands of High Fantasy do not belong to them.
If I'm not mistaken, I do not believe WotC has the rights to: Kingdoms of Kalamar, Lankhmar, Rokugan, Warcraft, and Wilderlands. Blackmoor is kinda iffy (they have rights, I think, but only to material TSR published, which was a VERY small line, and nothing of the later stuff).
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I bet on Planescape or Ravenloft

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Marco Fossati wrote:I bet on Planescape or Ravenloft
As much as I like Planescape, I'm not sure I'd bet on that one. IIRC they let the trademark expire not too long ago.
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Marco Fossati wrote:I bet on Planescape or Ravenloft
As much as I like Planescape, I'm not sure I'd bet on that one. IIRC they let the trademark expire not too long ago.
I didn't know that. I thought about Planescape because DM's Guide has a wide chapter about planes.

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Voted.

Blackmoor
Mystara
Thunder Rift


I kinda think its crazy that Thunder Rift is included. Someone must have raised some awareness campaign about that mini-setting :cool:

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Darksun : Simply because it offers a different experience truly apart from other settings.

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Voted for: Birthright, Dark Sun, Greyhawk, Jakandor, Mystara, Pelinore, Planescape, Spelljammer, and Thunder Rift.
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DirtSkull wrote:Greyhawk and Mystara will be apart of 5e whether or not WOTC publishes any material for them or not.
Besides the Realms, the Player's Handbook makes regular references to Greyhawk and Dragonlance, so I would expect those to be the next two settings that 5e will address. Appendix B also provides information on the gods of Eberron, so support for that setting seems highly likely as well.

Appendix C also mentions Blackmoor, Mystara, Birthright, and Dark Sun as other official settings from years past, but there's no indication there whether they intend to revisit them. (Also, for the Planescape fans here, Sigil gets a couple all-too-short paragraphs in the Other Planes section.)
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Interesting that Pellinore got 5 votes. They must all be from the UK.
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Voted Birthright and Mystara.
Mystara now at 99 votes - who takes the 100'th vote!
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night_druid wrote:
Marco Fossati wrote:I bet on Planescape or Ravenloft
As much as I like Planescape, I'm not sure I'd bet on that one. IIRC they let the trademark expire not too long ago.
We have done that dance a while ago, when some fans got all excited and thought they could buy one of the other out-of-print campaign settings. They still own the IP rights (and copyright) to all of those old campaign settings. I just think that someone at WotC decided to have a trademark clearout.
Havard wrote:Voted.

Blackmoor
Mystara
Thunder Rift
Why am I not surprised at your votes! :lol:
Havard wrote:I kinda think its crazy that Thunder Rift is included. Someone must have raised some awareness campaign about that mini-setting :cool:
Someone, huh? Would you happen to know who that might be? ;)
Graeme wrote:Interesting that Pellinore got 5 votes. They must all be from the UK.
I know of one Pelinore fan who is not in the UK...

...but he was born in the UK. :)
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Marco Fossati wrote:
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Marco Fossati wrote:I bet on Planescape or Ravenloft
As much as I like Planescape, I'm not sure I'd bet on that one. IIRC they let the trademark expire not too long ago.
I didn't know that. I thought about Planescape because DM's Guide has a wide chapter about planes.
I can't imagine they'd let the trademark lapse if they had plans for the setting. I suspect if they do anything with the planes, they won't be calling it Planescape. They may use Planescape elements and themes, but I doubt we'll see "Planescape" on the title of a product from WotC.
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Big Mac wrote:
night_druid wrote:
Marco Fossati wrote:I bet on Planescape or Ravenloft
As much as I like Planescape, I'm not sure I'd bet on that one. IIRC they let the trademark expire not too long ago.
We have done that dance a while ago, when some fans got all excited and thought they could buy one of the other out-of-print campaign settings. They still own the IP rights (and copyright) to all of those old campaign settings. I just think that someone at WotC decided to have a trademark clearout.
That's why I said 'trademark', not license. ;)
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night_druid wrote:
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night_druid wrote:
Marco Fossati wrote:I bet on Planescape or Ravenloft
As much as I like Planescape, I'm not sure I'd bet on that one. IIRC they let the trademark expire not too long ago.
We have done that dance a while ago, when some fans got all excited and thought they could buy one of the other out-of-print campaign settings. They still own the IP rights (and copyright) to all of those old campaign settings. I just think that someone at WotC decided to have a trademark clearout.
That's why I said 'trademark', not license. ;)
Yes, but they have specifically dropped the Mystara trademark, while mentioning the campaign setting in their 5e core rulebooks. So we already know that dropping trademark status is not an indication that they are totally abandoning the idea of republishing a setting.

So if that is the case for Mystara, I'm not sure we can read anything into the other dropped trademarks.
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Voted Birthright, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, Ravenloft and Lankhmar.
I love Dragonlance and Birthright, but I'd like some Sword & Sorcery setting too, so Dark Sun or Lankhmar would be excellent.

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Big Mac wrote:Yes, but they have specifically dropped the Mystara trademark, while mentioning the campaign setting in their 5e core rulebooks. So we already know that dropping trademark status is not an indication that they are totally abandoning the idea of republishing a setting.

So if that is the case for Mystara, I'm not sure we can read anything into the other dropped trademarks.
I was under the impression that although they let the Mystara Trademark slip for a while they have now renewed it? They do afterall lisence out the Chronicles of Mystara rights to Capcom...

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Mystara got a BIG push from the Mystara Reborn FB page last night - they were up to 194 last I checked.

Rokugan probably got thrown in there because of the d20 Rokugan setting during the OGL. (I like it, but I don't think it lends well to a d20 setting, especially the streamlined 5e.)

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My major contenders are Eberron and Ravenloft.

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The Angelic Dragon wrote:My major contenders are Eberron and Ravenloft.
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Knightfall wrote:
The Angelic Dragon wrote:My major contenders are Eberron and Ravenloft.
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Dave67 wrote:Mystara got a BIG push )
Its a sight of beauty seeing all the love for Mystara :)

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Just posted the link of the poll to 4 different forums in my region. If going to be a popularity vote might as well spread the news as much as possible !

Currently Greyhawk and Eberron are in the lead for 300+ votes. Its interesting to see that they are the oldest and newest setting. I wonder if its a generational gap between two cohorts of players (AD&D and 3E) ? It would have been nice to ask age group as part of the survey.

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Eberron, which to my mind is the best campaign setting ever, has taken the lead and is the one with the most votes currently, which makes me happy :)

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