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Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes reveal: 12 new monsters

Post by zontoxira » Thu May 10, 2018 1:11 pm

You can check a few images, as well as the relevant video (with more), on Sage Advice.
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Post by Havard » Thu May 10, 2018 2:06 pm

Wow! I know a couple of Spelljammer fans who will be excited for this! :)

Also, a Mystara monster! :o

Thanks for sharing this!

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Post by Big Mac » Fri May 11, 2018 1:12 pm

Nice! Finally the Giff art has come out! :cool:
Havard wrote:
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Wow! I know a couple of Spelljammer fans who will be excited for this! :)
Who was the other Spelljammer fan? :P
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Also, a Mystara monster! :o

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Post by night_druid » Fri May 11, 2018 1:20 pm

Finally, all five abashai back in the game. For whatever reason they dropped two types in 2e; in 1e there were five and they correlated to the five colors of the chromatic dragons.
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Post by Havard » Fri May 11, 2018 1:21 pm

Big Mac wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:12 pm
Nice! Finally the Giff art has come out! :cool:
Havard wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 2:06 pm
Wow! I know a couple of Spelljammer fans who will be excited for this! :)
Who was the other Spelljammer fan? :P
I dunno...Night Druid? :D
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Also, a Mystara monster! :o

Thanks for sharing this!
Did you plan on adding a question here? :)

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Post by Big Mac » Fri May 11, 2018 5:17 pm

Havard wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:21 pm
Big Mac wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:12 pm
Havard wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 2:06 pm
Also, a Mystara monster! :o

Thanks for sharing this!
Did you plan on adding a question here? :)
I must have hidden the question in a microdot. :oops:

I don't know if you are aware that most of the chapters of Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes are themed around specific conflicts in the multiverse. Do you have an idea where the Nightwalker might fit into a big D&D conflict?
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Post by Big Mac » Fri May 11, 2018 6:40 pm

night_druid wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:20 pm
Finally, all five abashai back in the game. For whatever reason they dropped two types in 2e; in 1e there were five and they correlated to the five colors of the chromatic dragons.
So this is an area where 5e is looking back to restore things from 1e. Interesting.

Do you know what 3e, 3.5 and 4e did with the abashai?
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night_druid wrote:
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Finally, all five abashai back in the game. For whatever reason they dropped two types in 2e; in 1e there were five and they correlated to the five colors of the chromatic dragons.
Why is it abashai? Last time I checked, the fiends were called Abishai.
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Post by Havard » Fri May 11, 2018 6:53 pm

Big Mac wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 5:17 pm
I don't know if you are aware that most of the chapters of Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes are themed around specific conflicts in the multiverse. Do you have an idea where the Nightwalker might fit into a big D&D conflict?
Hard to say. I wish it were Mystara related, but Nightwalkers were in 3E (and the SRD), so I would be surprised if they looked much at the original version for this.

If it were up to me I would tie them to the Far Realm or even better a Nightmare Dimension invasion of Mystara.

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Post by willpell » Fri May 11, 2018 10:17 pm

I'm very interested in the Eladrin, and the two elfy-looking females (possible fey? the last one looks like a Shadar-Kai, maybe). It's also interesting that two of these 10 monsters (or 14, if you count the Abishai separately) are "crying"; one of the fairy ladies has actual tears, and the undead thing with the spikes has black goo oozing from his eyes, which may or may not be meaningfully suggestive of grief. But by far the most exciting inclusion for me is the Marut. At last, both Modrons and Inevitables will be available in an edition I'm familiar with! I think I sense a Great March in the name of Primus coming on....
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Fri May 11, 2018 1:20 pm
Finally, all five abashai back in the game. For whatever reason they dropped two types in 2e; in 1e there were five and they correlated to the five colors of the chromatic dragons.
Why is it abashai? Last time I checked, the fiends were called Abishai.
It's clearly some sort of preliminary document; they probably just got the spelling wrong. It'll likely be fixed in copyediting (maybe, if we're lucky, but if that doesn't happen, it still doesn't prove there was an intention to change).

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Post by zontoxira » Sun May 13, 2018 1:51 pm

A creature list was released on twitter, by challenge rating. There's also encounter tables, and creature list by environment.
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Post by Havard » Sun May 13, 2018 3:06 pm

zontoxira wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 1:51 pm
A creature list was released on twitter, by challenge rating. There's also encounter tables, and creature list by environment.
Nice!

From a Mystara fan perspective I will be excited to see the following:

Tortle (AC2, X6)
Tortle Druid
Choker (Introduced in the Rockhome Gazeteer)
Frost Salamander (BECMI/Mystara Monstrous Appenxix)
Nagpa (AC2, X4)
Leviathan (Based on the AC2 creature?)
Yeenoghu
Orcus
Demogorgon

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Post by ripvanwormer » Sun May 13, 2018 3:09 pm

Big Mac wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 5:17 pm
Do you have an idea where the Nightwalker might fit into a big D&D conflict?
In BECMI, nightshades (including nightwalkers) are the greatest mortal minions of the Sphere of Entropy, ranking higher than lesser undead and answering to Orcus. The Sphere of Entropy opposes the other Spheres and represents dissolution, darkness, undeath, and death. In 3e and Pathfinder, nightshades are the undead remnants of powerful fiends who were destroyed by the Negative Energy Plane. They can be found on the Negative Energy Plane and the Plane of Shadow and represent entropy and undeath.

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