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SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Morfie » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:53 am

Hi,

Was just wondering if any of these are available?

I've only ever played D&D (& FF) so have no experience of Rolemaster, Runequest, HARP, MERP, Castles & Crusades,Traveller, Shadowrun, Vampire, Star Wars d6, et al.

I would like to see an SRD for comparison of any of the other OSRs.
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Khedrac » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:26 am

Generally speaking the concept of an SRD was invented for D&D 3.0.

This means that no game older than that (i.e. pretty much all "OSR" by definition) had one originally.
To produce one now will probably mean writing new contracts with the authors because the original contracts won't cover such publication. This can be done where the game was single author, but gets complicated if not. Whatever, it will generally cost something.
If the game is out of print, it won't be boosting sales for the current owners, so why spend the money? (Rolemaster)
If the game is still in print, not everyone's operating model works with SRDs, so do they want one out there? (RuneQuest is a version of Basic Fantasy Roleplaying which is still in print and a new version of RQ is scheduled for Christmas. From what I have read, Chaosium have had a major problem with people copying the core system so why produce an SRD to make it even easier?)

Generally speaking I don't think you will find a legal SRD for any of these.
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Big Mac » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:45 am

Khedrac wrote:Generally speaking I don't think you will find a legal SRD for any of these.


Actually, the Open 6 SRD is totally legal. They just can't call it a "Star Wars SRD" as Star Wars is Lucasfilm IP.

As for retro-clones of D&D, they are mostly built on the SRD itself, and therefore contain Open Game Content, that can be freely republished by anyone. So fans could create SRDs for most (if not all) retro-clones.

There is also a SRD for Pathfinder (called the PRD).
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby agathokles » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:27 am

Actually, the rationale for providing SRD is quite strong. You can't really prevent people from copying your "core system", since game mechanics can't be copyrighted (they aren't text) nor otherwise protected. At that point, it may be easier to allow people to use your formulation of the game mechanics, which makes it easier for users to transition to your products -- assuming they are of better quality. Essentially, SRDs acknowledge that you can't compete on core game mechanics, and reduce barriers for gamers to move from one game to another one that uses the same core.

Thus, there are a number of SRDs or equivalent "open" systems. Big Mac mentioned the PF and d6 ones, and Mongoose's versions of Traveller and Runequest also have SRDs. Plus, Fuzion is basically the equivalent of an SRD for Cyberpunk v3.

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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby timemrick » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:25 pm

The people who maintain the D20pfsrd.com site (for Pathfinder) also have SRD sites for Traveller, Fate, Gumshoe, and a few other systems. Scroll to the bottom of that page for the list of links.
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby RobJN » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:38 pm

Morrus' RPG system, What's O.L.D. is N.E.W. has its own reference document, so others can develop for the game.
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Krimson » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:27 pm

There is one for Mongoose Traveller.
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Tim Baker » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:00 am

13th Age offers an SRD, containing its core rules, bestiary, and additional classes/rules/monsters from 13 True Ways.

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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Vile » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:38 am

There is one for Mongoose RuneQuest (1st edition), although it is short on detail, e.g. it has monster names and stat blocks but no descriptions. GORE takes that and turns it into a sort-of Call of Cthulhu SRD. My RetroQuest II SRD modifies it for RQ2. The OpenQuest SRD is also based on it.

https://basicroleplaying.org/files/file ... -srd-core/
https://basicroleplaying.org/files/file ... companion/
https://basicroleplaying.org/files/file ... -monsters/

http://www.rpgnow.com/product/28521/GORE

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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby FistfulOfDice » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:17 pm

There's an SRD for Fate Core and Fate Accelerated, which also includes stuff from the Atomic Robo RPG and some of the other Fate games. https://fate-srd.com/

Dungeon World technically has an SRD site (http://www.dungeonworldsrd.com/), but really it's pretty much the full text of the book, which was released as Creative Commons.
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Angel Tarragon » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:26 pm

FistfulOfDice wrote:There's an SRD for Fate Core and Fate Accelerated, which also includes stuff from the Atomic Robo RPG and some of the other Fate games. https://fate-srd.com/

Dungeon World technically has an SRD site (http://www.dungeonworldsrd.com/), but really it's pretty much the full text of the book, which was released as Creative Commons.
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Havard » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:31 pm

There's Open D6:

http://opend6.wikidot.com/srd

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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Angel Tarragon » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:42 pm

Havard wrote:There's Open D6:

http://opend6.wikidot.com/srd

Wow, wasn't aware the the D6 system has an SRD. Thanks for that link, Havard!
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Dread Delgath » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:54 pm

Star Frontiers is freely available on the internet and clear for any products published for it (as long as you indicate what's what, etc.).

Since this is an original game system, I don't think it qualifies as an SRD for itself, but imo its worth a look.
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Re: SRD's for Non-D&D RPG's?

Postby Angel Tarragon » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:02 pm

Dread Delgath wrote:Star Frontiers is freely available on the internet and clear for any products published for it (as long as you indicate what's what, etc.).

Since this is an original game system, I don't think it qualifies as an SRD for itself, but imo its worth a look.
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