Unexplained character in RoTJ

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Unexplained character in RoTJ

Post by Corsair14 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:33 pm

I have wondered for awhile now, why was there a rebel commando wearing I think storm trooper armor in the Endor scene? You can see him when they march Han and the demo team outside the bunker and pan to all the captured rebels and he is standing there with his helm off with his hands on his head like the rest of them. Was this ever explained in the novelization or in an interview somewhere?

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Post by Cthulhudrew » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:50 pm

IIRC, they were part of Han and Leia's group that first stormed the bunker. They had donned the suits of the Stormtroopers that had been standing guard outside the bunker in order to try and conceal the fact that rebels had taken it over (ie, if other patrols should happen to come by). It might have worked if the Emperor hadn't already anticipated that the rebels would be trying to do that very thing and had reinforcements dispatched.
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Post by thorr-kan » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:22 pm

Ha! I just noticed this myself a few weeks ago.

I'm with the "fake guard" camp. If you look really, really close at the scene where Han, Leia, and team enter the bunker door, you can see a Scout trooper facing outwards, adjusting his helmet. It's literally a blink-and-you'll-miss-it scene.

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Post by Nate Christen » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:36 pm

The character in question is Major Bren Derlin.

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Post by thorr-kan » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:17 pm

Nate Christen wrote:The character in question is Major Bren Derlin.
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Based on the credits?

I dug through the Endor team on Wookiepedia, but turned up nothing conclusive.

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Post by Havard » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:00 pm

thorr-kan wrote:
Nate Christen wrote:The character in question is Major Bren Derlin.
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Based on the credits?

I dug through the Endor team on Wookiepedia, but turned up nothing conclusive.
From what I've found Bren Derlin only appeared in Empire Strikes Back?

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Post by ghendar » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:20 pm

Holy crap! Cliff Clavin?? How did this escape me? :shock:
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Post by thorr-kan » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:53 pm

ghendar wrote:Holy crap! Cliff Clavin?? How did this escape me? :shock:
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Re: Unexplained character in RoTJ

Post by Cthulhudrew » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:55 pm

Empire was Pre-Cheers, so maybe that's why. (I didn't know it until this thread, myself.)

Sounds like the info about Major Bren Derlin was from the EU somewhere; I don't know if Ratzenberger was ever credited as such in any of the movies, and he didn't reprise his role in Jedi in any case. I'm guessing someone just saw some kind of resemblance between Ratzenberger and one of the extras that was a part of the Endor team and decided to make them the same character in their EU canon, and it took off from there. (Near as I can tell, the only real resemblance is that both are white guys with moustaches.)

ETA: It looks like he did receive a credit as "Major Derlin" in Empire.
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Post by Falconer » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:58 pm

The RotJ radio drama had Major Derlin as the leader of the commando team, IIRC. However, the RotJ radio drama came out way later than the others (in 1996).
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Post by Falconer » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:06 pm

A lot of EU info originated in the WEG sourcebooks.

ESB Galaxy Guide (1989)

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Post by Havard » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:13 pm

Interesting. Seems like another actor portrayed Derlin in RotJ though?

On the other hand, it seems like the character the Radio Show and WEG attributed as Derlin is a different guy from the one this thread is about?

The WEG illustration seems to suggest that Derlin is the guy that the Rebels Show Runners attribudet as Captain Rex?

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Re: Unexplained character in RoTJ

Post by Falconer » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:23 pm

The illustration from the WEG RotJ Galaxy Guide does appear to match this guy from the movie:

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Eagle-eyed watchers of RotJ note that he put on the armor from the captured “Hey!” guy that Han tapped on the shoulder. This is also stated in the novelization.

He was identified as someone other than Derlin and named Nik Sant in an obscure magazine in 2002. A little “Saint Nick” joke, I guess?
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