1937 Hobbit as a Setting

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1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby shesheyan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:02 am

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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby Tim Baker » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:57 am

I really like that. I'd never considered it before.
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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby zontoxira » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:17 pm

That's quite interesting, indeed. I also enjoy the cartoony drawings of the Hobbit, showcasing its light-hearted nature, compared to the more serious tone of the Lord of the Rings.
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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby shesheyan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:21 pm

This opens doors of possibilities in my mind. I was always intimidated by the incredible narrative of the LOTR. I never played in or DMed a Middle-Earth campaign because of that. I couldn't make it my own. With this idea in mind I could see myself running a pre-LOTR campaign. Funny how sometimes you have to look at something from a different angle to make it work for you ! :-D
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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby Big Mac » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:49 pm

zontoxira wrote:That's quite interesting, indeed. I also enjoy the cartoony drawings of the Hobbit, showcasing its light-hearted nature, compared to the more serious tone of the Lord of the Rings.


The Hobbit is definitely a more cheerful book that Lord of the Rings.

(The same could probably be said of Harry Potter, where the first couple of books are a lot more fun than the last couple of books.)
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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby shesheyan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:58 pm

Big Mac wrote:
zontoxira wrote:That's quite interesting, indeed. I also enjoy the cartoony drawings of the Hobbit, showcasing its light-hearted nature, compared to the more serious tone of the Lord of the Rings.


The Hobbit is definitely a more cheerful book that Lord of the Rings.

(The same could probably be said of Harry Potter, where the first couple of books are a lot more fun than the last couple of books.)


Indeed. I found the third Potter book «Prisoner of Azkaban» the most unsettling of the series. But yes the books acquires a very dark tone with the last two.
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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby Big Mac » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:44 pm

shesheyan wrote:This opens doors of possibilities in my mind. I was always intimidated by the incredible narrative of the LOTR. I never played in or DMed a Middle-Earth campaign because of that. I couldn't make it my own. With this idea in mind I could see myself running a pre-LOTR campaign. Funny how sometimes you have to look at something from a different angle to make it work for you ! :-D


You're right.

The narrative of Lord of the Rings ties in very much with Sauron and his dark forces, while the narrative of The Hobbit shows a Middle-earth where Sauron is not totally dominant.

It's really the difference between playing in a setting where nations have various conflicts and a setting hit by global warefare.
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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby shesheyan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:10 pm

Big Mac wrote:
shesheyan wrote:This opens doors of possibilities in my mind. I was always intimidated by the incredible narrative of the LOTR. I never played in or DMed a Middle-Earth campaign because of that. I couldn't make it my own. With this idea in mind I could see myself running a pre-LOTR campaign. Funny how sometimes you have to look at something from a different angle to make it work for you ! :-D


You're right.

The narrative of Lord of the Rings ties in very much with Sauron and his dark forces, while the narrative of The Hobbit shows a Middle-earth where Sauron is not totally dominant.

It's really the difference between playing in a setting where nations have various conflicts and a setting hit by global warefare.


I didn't find the global warfare intimidating. The problem I have with LOTR (Star Wars IV-VI, Dragon Lance) is my inability to ignore the incredible feats of the heroes. Everything I imagine pales in comparison. I feel like there is no room for my narratives. My player's characters are only secondary characters in the bigger story of those settings. I want my guys to be the «Big Damn Heroes» ! ;)

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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby finarvyn » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:32 pm

shesheyan wrote:The problem I have with LOTR (Star Wars IV-VI, Dragon Lance) is my inability to ignore the incredible feats of the heroes. Everything I imagine pales in comparison. I feel like there is no room for my narratives. My player's characters are only secondary characters in the bigger story of those settings. I want my guys to be the «Big Damn Heroes» ! ;)
I get that, which is why I try to avoid those specific time periods (or I have to assume that those events don't happen and that the characters will need to fill in that role). One thing I like about TOR and AiME is that their time slection is 5 years after the Battle of the Five Armies. This means that the events of The Hobbit are all done and the events of LotR are far in the future, so characters basically have to find other things to do. And if someone gets the idea of "hey, let's go to the Shire and find Bilbo and take his ring" and they go there, they won't find Bilbo or the Ring. ;)
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Re: 1937 Hobbit as a Setting

Postby shesheyan » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:23 pm

finarvyn wrote:
shesheyan wrote:The problem I have with LOTR (Star Wars IV-VI, Dragon Lance) is my inability to ignore the incredible feats of the heroes. Everything I imagine pales in comparison. I feel like there is no room for my narratives. My player's characters are only secondary characters in the bigger story of those settings. I want my guys to be the «Big Damn Heroes» ! ;)
I get that, which is why I try to avoid those specific time periods (or I have to assume that those events don't happen and that the characters will need to fill in that role). One thing I like about TOR and AiME is that their time slection is 5 years after the Battle of the Five Armies. This means that the events of The Hobbit are all done and the events of LotR are far in the future, so characters basically have to find other things to do. And if someone gets the idea of "hey, let's go to the Shire and find Bilbo and take his ring" and they go there, they won't find Bilbo or the Ring. ;)


You are a wise man. For Star Wars SAGA, I designed a campaign in the Knights of the Old Republic era. I felt free to do what I wanted. Being a Jedi was not such a big fuss since there were many of them (humans and aliens) at that period. Best game of SW we played.
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