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Re: Ashtagon's maps

Post by Ashtagon » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:06 am

Morfie wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:18 am
Where did the 1708 Jaillot map come from?

It seems to have some errors which don't make sense.

1. Your remark about Ireland.
This here is a map of Ireland by Jaillot. It is quite clearly different to the 1708 map, and closer to a modern map.

2. New Zealand.
In 1708 only the Dutch (apart from Natives) had been there at the time. While it is quite possible the Dutch shared maps with France, they hadn't seen that much of it, and from what they saw they knew there were 2 islands. This map only has one.
My source image is here: https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servle ... 25&trs=224

As you can see, all I did was re-project it.

Certainly, some of his other maps (such as his 1693 Ireland map) show Ireland wit near-modern accuracy. To a certain extent, the inaccuracy can be considered an artefact of rendering fine details on a world-scale map, and especially rendering an area that is highly distorted due to map projection (remember, this was pre-computer-rendering). I think for RPG purposes though, it's more fun to imagine that the inaccuracies are as it really was.

I know the historical record shows that New Zealand had only been visited by Dutch explorers (and Polynesians of course) by the date of the map. However, the fact that the map exists should, I think, be incontrovertible proof that the Dutch did share news of their discovery with France. They also did so with Venice and other European powers.

This Venetian map shows that it wasn't yet conclusively known that New Zealand was two large islands. It wasn't until this 1773 map that it was conclusively known to be two islands, let alone not part of the Antarctic continent coast.
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Re: Ashtagon's maps

Post by Kythkyn » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:50 pm

Love the maps, Ashtagon!
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Re: Ashtagon's maps

Post by Coronoides » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:50 pm

You might be interested in my World according to Gulliver’s Travels map made from the 1719 Herman Moll map and the 1727 original maps in the novel also by Moll. I made this for my game Gulliver’s Trading Company. I will post a pic here when I get Photobucket working.

https://www.deviantart.com/coronoides/a ... -294804331

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Re: Ashtagon's maps

Post by Ashtagon » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:22 pm

My latest piece...

The source map was made in 1708 by Alexis Jaillot, a French cartographer.

Full Size version (need to click the download link for full size): https://www.deviantart.com/ashtagon/art ... -777334188

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Post by Angel Tarragon » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:34 am

Wow, it's a good thing that the landmasses weren't that accurate, or what is the USA today probably wouldn't exist today...Russia or pre-Russian peoples may have conquered it.

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Re: Ashtagon's maps

Post by Big Mac » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:04 pm

Ashtagon wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:06 am
I know the historical record shows that New Zealand had only been visited by Dutch explorers (and Polynesians of course) by the date of the map. However, the fact that the map exists should, I think, be incontrovertible proof that the Dutch did share news of their discovery with France. They also did so with Venice and other European powers.

This Venetian map shows that it wasn't yet conclusively known that New Zealand was two large islands. It wasn't until this 1773 map that it was conclusively known to be two islands, let alone not part of the Antarctic continent coast.
It it New Zealand that keeps getting left off of modern maps?
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Re: Ashtagon's maps

Post by Big Mac » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:11 pm

Coronoides wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:50 pm
You might be interested in my World according to Gulliver’s Travels map made from the 1719 Herman Moll map and the 1727 original maps in the novel also by Moll. I made this for my game Gulliver’s Trading Company. I will post a pic here when I get Photobucket working.

https://www.deviantart.com/coronoides/a ... -294804331

Here it is in low res.

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That looks great!

You should probably start your own topic about it (if you have not already).

I bet this would really help people who want to try running a RPG in the world of Gulliver's Travels.

(Mind you, I'd kind of like to see a different topic for every different map that Ashtagon is making too. :) )
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Re: Ashtagon's maps

Post by Coronoides » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:39 am

Big Mac wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:11 pm

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That looks great!

You should probably start your own topic about it (if you have not already).

I bet this would really help people who want to try running a RPG in the world of Gulliver's Travels.

(Mind you, I'd kind of like to see a different topic for every different map that Ashtagon is making too. :) )
Thanks.
I’ll consider it.
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